World's Largest Dungeon in actual play [Spoilers!]

[just__al]

one the best weapons in longtail's arsenal is invisibility, and his ability to cast it over and over

his damage reduction 5/silver is great too

if you're going with kyton, neither of those abilities are as important, but a single boss fighting ANY group is going to suffer more hits in a round than he can dish out. the only cure for this is a lot of hit points or damage reduction... the pcs should NOT be able to squash longtail in under 10 rounds.

this needs to be a good hardy challenge so the pcs understand the threat potential of the dungeon. and to put a nice cap on this region.

and fireball is perfect for cleaning up the kobold army.

beyond that, i have no idea which version of longtail is going to work best for your group... if they don't like LONG challenges, don't use the kyton.

Wait, isn't longtail a NATURAL (not inflicted) warerat? That gives him DR 10/Silver

I just ran my second group up against him and they had a wicked, wicked bad time.

Also his wand of color spray is NASTY against 3rd-4th level pcs

 

[Hussar]

Yeah, I was going to say that too. Longtail has a 10/silver DR in his stats, not 5/silver. Which meant that my party actually had to kill him with a dagger and the other players aiding another on the fighter. ROTF. I made a mistake and stayed one more round than I should have and a lucky crit from the dagger dropped him. But, with a 10/silver DR, he ignores arrows entirely. It's highly unlikely your guys have strength bows. I ran him out of spells, but the two party clerics managed to keep everyone on their feet. So, I just let Longtail wade in and stand toe to toe with the party. The fight lastes seventeen rounds!

One of the high points of the campaign.

 

[jim pinto]

Yeah, I was going to say that too. Longtail has a 10/silver DR in his stats, not 5/silver. Which meant that my party actually had to kill him with a dagger and the other players aiding another on the fighter. ROTF. I made a mistake and stayed one more round than I should have and a lucky crit from the dagger dropped him. But, with a 10/silver DR, he ignores arrows entirely. It's highly unlikely your guys have strength bows. I ran him out of spells, but the two party clerics managed to keep everyone on their feet. So, I just let Longtail wade in and stand toe to toe with the party. The fight lastes seventeen rounds!

One of the high points of the campaign.

sorry... didn't have my book in front of me... 10/silver it is

 

[Qwillion]

Yeah in my game the rogue was doing silver as her "theme" everything had to be silvered.

So the rogue was Longtails most challenging opponent but there is no evasion for magic missle

 

[Barak]

Yeah, normally bows wouldn't hurt longtail much, if at all. But then they hit a crit, and x3 will huirt anyone, damage reduction or not. And it was a +2 str bow, too.

 

[BlueBlackRed]

For reasons I can't fathom, I never liked lycanthropes.

So I took Longtail out, turned him into a 1/2 orc Zhent sorcerer, and put a Zhent agent in with the party.
The agent worked with the party (barely) until this fight, where he backstabbed the group's sorcerer while the rest of the group was over 60' away, leaving the sorcerer all alone with the agent.

Ah, good times, good times.

 

[JoeBlank]

BlueBlackRed, you got a stat block you could share on your half-orc sorc? I like lycanthropes, but I've already run a wererat adventure. My group is in region A, and I would love to do something else with Longtail.

However, the group already knows he his name is Longtail. Maybe I should make him a lizardfolk or some such. Any other suggestions?

 

[DaveMage]

BlueBlackRed, you got a stat block you could share on your half-orc sorc? I like lycanthropes, but I've already run a wererat adventure. My group is in region A, and I would love to do something else with Longtail.

However, the group already knows he his name is Longtail. Maybe I should make him a lizardfolk or some such. Any other suggestions?

Yuan-ti?

 

[jim pinto]

Yuan-ti?

yeah.. that would kick... a fiendish yuan-ti.... or worse... a half-fiend yuan-ti

oh man... that would certainly challenge the pcs... he was a lizard man once, but now he's a snake-thing

curse you, dave mage... you are too wise in the ways of evil

 

[Qwillion]

Yeah I am pretty burnt on the lycanthrope thing. Yet then Mathew Sernett did the Advanced Bestiary and the Monstrous Lycanthrope Creature Template just begs to be used. I keep looking a some really nasty combos like, the Tarrasque.

Seriously I have been looking for a way to make Longtail more relevent and I have stuck by the idea of his familiar having a larger role. I keep thinking that his familiar is a much more powerful creature than people realize. I am struck by the idea from Raymond Feist's Wrath of a Demon King, an apparently minor demon who has access to great magic, wisdom, knowledge and power but keeps a very low profile because he does not want to be the target.

Generally I hate most demons that are out there because alot of times they end up being nothing more than a long list of spell-like abilites, with nothing to make them stand out from the crowd.

I am currently contemplating a plot of Longtail's Familiar being the remaining essence of Ash the Deciever.

Anyone have an opinion.