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<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 8631053" data-attributes="member: 6799660"><p>I don't necessarily think that things mean anything in particular. Some things just are.</p><p>All in all, I don't think the video game analogy is the most apt. I think perhaps a better one would be how many people today got their start with Star Trek with Next Generation or later, and many of them can't watch the original without seeing the re-used sets, 60s special effects, and so on. Or how my nephew learned that Darth Vader was Luke's father when he was first familiarized with either of them (as Lego characters, no less). </p><p></p><p>The one thing this timeline discussion reminds me of is this: When EGG was first working on <em>Chainmail </em>(and I think that is where we have to start the measuring, if discussing influences), most of the pulp fantasy Appendix N material that influenced him (plus the westerns that helped forge the frontier world influence on the game world) was more recent the then than D&D's creation is to now. Cthulhu in 1926, Conan in 1932, LotR 1949 (but the North American revival in 1965, less than a decade previous), Dying Earth 1950. All of these would have been more contemporaneous than the original Star Wars is today (and some of the later works moreso than <em>The Matrix</em> or <em>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</em> is now).</p><p></p><p>It reminds me of the situation I had where a someone was complaining about the most recent (at the time) Muppet movies were 'trash' because it had some soon-to-be-dated pop culture references and cameos by past-their-prime celebrities (because the guests on the 1970s tv show were what, exactly?).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 8631053, member: 6799660"] I don't necessarily think that things mean anything in particular. Some things just are. All in all, I don't think the video game analogy is the most apt. I think perhaps a better one would be how many people today got their start with Star Trek with Next Generation or later, and many of them can't watch the original without seeing the re-used sets, 60s special effects, and so on. Or how my nephew learned that Darth Vader was Luke's father when he was first familiarized with either of them (as Lego characters, no less). The one thing this timeline discussion reminds me of is this: When EGG was first working on [I]Chainmail [/I](and I think that is where we have to start the measuring, if discussing influences), most of the pulp fantasy Appendix N material that influenced him (plus the westerns that helped forge the frontier world influence on the game world) was more recent the then than D&D's creation is to now. Cthulhu in 1926, Conan in 1932, LotR 1949 (but the North American revival in 1965, less than a decade previous), Dying Earth 1950. All of these would have been more contemporaneous than the original Star Wars is today (and some of the later works moreso than [I]The Matrix[/I] or [I]Buffy the Vampire Slayer[/I] is now). It reminds me of the situation I had where a someone was complaining about the most recent (at the time) Muppet movies were 'trash' because it had some soon-to-be-dated pop culture references and cameos by past-their-prime celebrities (because the guests on the 1970s tv show were what, exactly?). [/QUOTE]
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