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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7842320" data-attributes="member: 18182">Duuude . . . you're coming on a little strong there calling people ignorant. Cool your jets.You've got some great info about the influences on Warhammer . . . but please realize you are arguing in High Nerd about which derivative fantasy game is more derivative. Both games are awesome, starting out highly derivative of existing fantasy tropes, but have evolved over the decades into their own awesome uniqueness.And, you do realize that Games Workshop, the company behind Warhammer, began as a hobby business supporting Dungeons &amp; Dragons? Their flagship magazine, White Dwarf, was mostly D&amp;D content in the early days, and their first miniatures produced were for the D&amp;D game (albeit unlicensed, I think). Warhammer came later. GW has always had a very British, and to American sensibilities, very unique take on the &quot;D&amp;D genre&quot; that evolved into Warhammer. That's not to say that Warhammer is more or less derivative on fantasy tropes than D&amp;D, or that it is derivative (or not) of D&amp;D itself . . . . . by Sigmar, I could care less!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 7842320, member: 18182"] Duuude . . . you're coming on a little strong there calling people ignorant. Cool your jets. You've got some great info about the influences on Warhammer . . . but please realize you are arguing in High Nerd about which derivative fantasy game is more derivative. Both games are awesome, starting out highly derivative of existing fantasy tropes, but have evolved over the decades into their own awesome uniqueness. And, you do realize that Games Workshop, the company behind Warhammer, began as a hobby business supporting Dungeons & Dragons? Their flagship magazine, White Dwarf, was mostly D&D content in the early days, and their first miniatures produced were for the D&D game (albeit unlicensed, I think). Warhammer came later. GW has always had a very British, and to American sensibilities, very unique take on the "D&D genre" that evolved into Warhammer. That's not to say that Warhammer is more or less derivative on fantasy tropes than D&D, or that it is derivative (or not) of D&D itself . . . . . by Sigmar, I could care less! [/QUOTE]

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