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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8666027" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>It's not that weird. Companies often have to acknowledge some other company they don't work with and don't want to work with.</p><p></p><p>[USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] has done literally everything he can in this and the other thread to say "ENWorld is blacklisted by WotC", without actually saying it. So do you believe him? Because I do. Like, I don't agree with [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] on everything, but he is one of the most honest people I've come across in RPGs.</p><p></p><p>This also isn't the first we've heard about WotC having a blacklist. It came up before re: Orion Black. I can't remember exactly the situation, but there was some implication that after the bust-up with WotC, Orion Black would be blacklisted by WotC and others.</p><p></p><p>And historically WotC have been a bit... capricious... re: 3PPs and how they relate to them. Capricious and a wee bit hostile. That's been true all through 3E and 4E as well as 5E. I mean, sheesh at the start of 4E I'd describe WotC as both overbearing and hostile towards 3PPs, hence the idiotic GSL deal.</p><p></p><p>EDIT - Also, blacklisting doesn't mean WotC say, "hate" ENWorld. It might be that a number of WotC people, even a majority, hold a favourable opinion of ENWorld. But depending on the reason for the blacklisting, it could be down to a single person in senior management just hard-blocking any change to the status, or it could be for some exotic reason that wouldn't even make sense outside of WotC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8666027, member: 18"] It's not that weird. Companies often have to acknowledge some other company they don't work with and don't want to work with. [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] has done literally everything he can in this and the other thread to say "ENWorld is blacklisted by WotC", without actually saying it. So do you believe him? Because I do. Like, I don't agree with [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] on everything, but he is one of the most honest people I've come across in RPGs. This also isn't the first we've heard about WotC having a blacklist. It came up before re: Orion Black. I can't remember exactly the situation, but there was some implication that after the bust-up with WotC, Orion Black would be blacklisted by WotC and others. And historically WotC have been a bit... capricious... re: 3PPs and how they relate to them. Capricious and a wee bit hostile. That's been true all through 3E and 4E as well as 5E. I mean, sheesh at the start of 4E I'd describe WotC as both overbearing and hostile towards 3PPs, hence the idiotic GSL deal. EDIT - Also, blacklisting doesn't mean WotC say, "hate" ENWorld. It might be that a number of WotC people, even a majority, hold a favourable opinion of ENWorld. But depending on the reason for the blacklisting, it could be down to a single person in senior management just hard-blocking any change to the status, or it could be for some exotic reason that wouldn't even make sense outside of WotC. [/QUOTE]
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