D&D General WotC is at it again

To clarify, as others didn't - they aren't claiming ownership. They are claiming license, which is not at all the same thing.

Or, to be even more specific, in posting to their site, you are agreeing to grant them license.

Don't want to give them license? Don't put it on D&D Beyond.
Ideally the license could be a bit less far reaching as well. Like if I post on D&D Beyond I obviously want my crap to be shared on D&D Beyond, but not shared for only god knows what else, i'm not really on board with that.
 

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To clarify, as others didn't - they aren't claiming ownership. They are claiming license, which is not at all the same thing.

Or, to be even more specific, in posting to their site, you are agreeing to grant them license.

Don't want to give them license? Don't put it on D&D Beyond.
In a practical sense what is the effective difference?
Can WotC use you ideas to sell new product without paying you royalties?

From my rather limited understanding of that clause it appears yes.
 

Didn't they have such terms since the Gleeman forums?

Side Story: Remember when WOTC did a contest for a new setting for D&D 3e? Well, I submitted an outline as per the guidelines and signed away my rights. The 'Points of Light' setting for 4e is strangely familiar to what I sent as a proposal. During a move, I lost my self-addressed envelop with the proposal inside. I can never prove this. Not that I would try to sue them. Just claiming a bit of D&D design fame would be cool. (or maybe it's just coincidence.)
I've heard half a dozen people say the same thing. Did you copy their work? Should they sue you? (No of course you didn't; but it turns out the concept isn't particularly unique and precisely illustrates why terms like this exist).
 

In a practical sense what is the effective difference?
Can WotC use you ideas to sell new product without paying you royalties?

From my rather limited understanding of that clause it appears yes.
Yes (though they don't want it), but the important bit is that they can't stop you using your content, because you still own it. That's the difference between a license and ownership, and why it's important to distinguish between the them. They're different things, with different effects.
 

Ideally the license could be a bit less far reaching as well. Like if I post on D&D Beyond I obviously want my crap to be shared on D&D Beyond, but not shared for only god knows what else, i'm not really on board with that.
That's basically so if they move platform in a few years, they can move the user content too; or if they are acquired, or sell the platform to somebody, they can legally transfer the content. Otherwise they'd have to delete it all--and guess what? People are historically very unhappy when all their content is deleted.

The side I'm less happy about is that that will likely include AI training in the future.
 

That's basically so if they move platform in a few years, they can move the user content too; or if they are acquired, or sell the platform to somebody, they can legally transfer the content. Otherwise they'd have to delete it all--and guess what? People are historically very unhappy when all their content is deleted.

The side I'm less happy about is that that will likely include AI training in the future.

I’m good with what you suggest here but
I don’t really see any limits on their license (though maybe the courts have established some). So AI, or really anything else they dream up they can use it for as far as I can tell.
 

I’m good with what you suggest here but
I don’t really see any limits on their license (though maybe the courts have established some). So AI, or really anything else they dream up they can use it for as far as I can tell.
Sure. But... they don't want your forum posts. Honestly, your forum posts are not worth anything. They're just covering their asses in case they make something and 12 people say "they stole my idea!" (as has ironically already happened in this thread). But that's been said a billion times, so you know that.

I just wish you could opt out of AI training specifically.
 

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