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<blockquote data-quote="Gorrstagg" data-source="post: 4743235" data-attributes="member: 15863"><p>I have purchased all my 4E books as pdf's, and actually have hard copies of the core set as well. Actually that's the only hardcovers I've got.</p><p></p><p>It's 2009, and I use a laptop and a home computer, often simultaneously. I must admit I've been caught completely and totally off-guard by this move from WotC. </p><p></p><p>My first reactions are, "Wait, why am I, a great customer, being treated as a criminal. I didn't steal any books, I didn't pirate anything. I've faithfully, bought the new books that I would use, on their release day. My name is watermarked in the bottom left hand corner. And I can avoid killing a TREE, and have a great tool to enhance my game."</p><p>"What the hell is wrong here? Wait, they are pursuiing legal action against 8 people, but somehow that affects me? Doesn't this mean that the system works, if they've tracked these people down?"</p><p></p><p>"I think 4th edition is the greatest edition of D&D to come along in the past 26 years of my gaming life, which started with D&D Red Box. And it's 2009, books are on pdf's, so we can avoid destroying forests. And I can carry one laptop with my 10 books on it. And now they want to treat me like some dirty scuzzy criminal."</p><p></p><p>My reactions have ranged the gamut, with part of me wanting a boycott to happen, until they bring back the sale of .pdf's. Because I am at heart a lover of this edition.</p><p></p><p>Which has me thinking, well this certainly was a knee-jerk reaction. Which makes me think someone is trying to justify something somewhere up in the corporate chain. Because the pirates, will still make copies and put them out there. So this action does NOTHING to stop them.</p><p></p><p>It in fact is the definition of retarded.</p><p></p><p>"n. A slowing down or hindering of progress; a delay."</p><p></p><p>Who is driving the bus over at WotC? Seriously. So, let me see if I get this right. Remove all .pdf's of WotC materials. So revenues go down the drain, and it stops not a damn pirate. They'll get the materials, and probably get great copies because someone will go through a little bit more effort to spite WotC. And the people getting hurt are, WotC, and their loyal customer base.</p><p></p><p>Guys, this is what happens when someone rolls a 1, when making a logical skill test.</p><p></p><p>My only hope, is that WotC is going to go with Stardocks downloading scheme. Or hell just go with Stardock. </p><p></p><p>Actually another part of me wants to find someone who is brilliantly rich who would buy D&D out from Hasbro. So we can get things fixed as it were. </p><p></p><p>And you know what's worse, it's folks like Scott Rouse who have to put up with this crap. Him and all the dev's working on this. Them I feel for.</p><p></p><p>This is just a horrible decision, and I look forward to it being repealed or done in another method that brings it in-house to WotC. They probably looked at it as a financial decision that they could play off of on pirates to bring in the revenue stream of offering their .pdf's and getting all the profit, pure and clean. (SKill check, Insight - DC 26, rolled a 32 - Success.)</p><p></p><p>If anything, this is probably only a sweeping change to bring in more money without any middle men. Bring it home, make the money, and up our profits in this economic downturn, and just not worry about the 20,000 loyal buyers of the electronic format. They only represented members of the book of the month club anyhow, 15,000 will come back to us when we start selling them right here at WotC.</p><p></p><p>Grrr... - I'm pissed off. I'm getting crapped on for now, and treated like a criminal because it's convenient. Well, I can say this. Shame on you WotC. And Shame on you Hasbro. This is not how an ethical business decision is made and implemented so it impacts your customers the least. You gradually phase it out. And switch over to your own store, (cause that's what your probably going to do anyhow.)</p><p></p><p>This fly by the pants crap. Has no real supporters, irregardless of your "Rights" because your within them, but damn if you don't hurt the very loyal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gorrstagg, post: 4743235, member: 15863"] I have purchased all my 4E books as pdf's, and actually have hard copies of the core set as well. Actually that's the only hardcovers I've got. It's 2009, and I use a laptop and a home computer, often simultaneously. I must admit I've been caught completely and totally off-guard by this move from WotC. My first reactions are, "Wait, why am I, a great customer, being treated as a criminal. I didn't steal any books, I didn't pirate anything. I've faithfully, bought the new books that I would use, on their release day. My name is watermarked in the bottom left hand corner. And I can avoid killing a TREE, and have a great tool to enhance my game." "What the hell is wrong here? Wait, they are pursuiing legal action against 8 people, but somehow that affects me? Doesn't this mean that the system works, if they've tracked these people down?" "I think 4th edition is the greatest edition of D&D to come along in the past 26 years of my gaming life, which started with D&D Red Box. And it's 2009, books are on pdf's, so we can avoid destroying forests. And I can carry one laptop with my 10 books on it. And now they want to treat me like some dirty scuzzy criminal." My reactions have ranged the gamut, with part of me wanting a boycott to happen, until they bring back the sale of .pdf's. Because I am at heart a lover of this edition. Which has me thinking, well this certainly was a knee-jerk reaction. Which makes me think someone is trying to justify something somewhere up in the corporate chain. Because the pirates, will still make copies and put them out there. So this action does NOTHING to stop them. It in fact is the definition of retarded. "n. A slowing down or hindering of progress; a delay." Who is driving the bus over at WotC? Seriously. So, let me see if I get this right. Remove all .pdf's of WotC materials. So revenues go down the drain, and it stops not a damn pirate. They'll get the materials, and probably get great copies because someone will go through a little bit more effort to spite WotC. And the people getting hurt are, WotC, and their loyal customer base. Guys, this is what happens when someone rolls a 1, when making a logical skill test. My only hope, is that WotC is going to go with Stardocks downloading scheme. Or hell just go with Stardock. Actually another part of me wants to find someone who is brilliantly rich who would buy D&D out from Hasbro. So we can get things fixed as it were. And you know what's worse, it's folks like Scott Rouse who have to put up with this crap. Him and all the dev's working on this. Them I feel for. This is just a horrible decision, and I look forward to it being repealed or done in another method that brings it in-house to WotC. They probably looked at it as a financial decision that they could play off of on pirates to bring in the revenue stream of offering their .pdf's and getting all the profit, pure and clean. (SKill check, Insight - DC 26, rolled a 32 - Success.) If anything, this is probably only a sweeping change to bring in more money without any middle men. Bring it home, make the money, and up our profits in this economic downturn, and just not worry about the 20,000 loyal buyers of the electronic format. They only represented members of the book of the month club anyhow, 15,000 will come back to us when we start selling them right here at WotC. Grrr... - I'm pissed off. I'm getting crapped on for now, and treated like a criminal because it's convenient. Well, I can say this. Shame on you WotC. And Shame on you Hasbro. This is not how an ethical business decision is made and implemented so it impacts your customers the least. You gradually phase it out. And switch over to your own store, (cause that's what your probably going to do anyhow.) This fly by the pants crap. Has no real supporters, irregardless of your "Rights" because your within them, but damn if you don't hurt the very loyal. [/QUOTE]
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