Lakesidefantasy
Hero
Is this the End of Days?
WotC quietly deleting access to the 3e SRD
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Yaarel
Mind Mage
It is part of the world becoming less compassionate and more merciless, including legally punishing.
GMforPowergamers
Legend
that is a great service for many. good work
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
No. THIS part is frankly hysteria. This happened years ago, not now. Long before this issue existed. And these docs are in a LOT of places and always have been for years. Google any of these docs and you can find them easily. They're not "disappearing" and never did. WOTC just stopped hosting copies, like lots and lots of other stuff they stopped hosting, quite a while ago, with no nefarious intent apparent.
I understand people are afraid. People sometimes behave badly when they're afraid. I am seeing a lot of people ramp up the fear of others with implications of nefarious plots and conspiracies by WOTC years in the making. It's not a good look - and I don't mean for WOTC.
Art Waring
halozix.com
Oh dear, good thing its all over the internet, and I think I have half a dozen separate copies scattered amongst all the various SRD files I have.
Xyxox
Hero
A lot of people are worrying about it going away. I am still of the opinion that WotC/Hasbro cannot revoke or "unauthorize" it, though I would also agree they can force abandonment of it a condition of acceptance of OGL 1.1, which is what I believe the language in the leaked portion is actually doing.
GMforPowergamers
Legend
I don't know if they can or can't win if it goes through full court and a judge rules... I bet no lawyer can say for 100%. However if WotC loses $2,000,000 in legal fees and don't win it will be a hit but a really small annoying one... if a group of small publishers spend half that (1 mil) to win that could still bankrupt them even in victory.
If 1 or 2 big players make a side deal to not need to use the OGL, then nobody can or will try.
It's not "You can't win because your wrong" it's "they can make it cost you everything just to try...
that group that MIGHT win if they throw 1mil at it... and they lose, that would be DEVISTATING. and they have to weigh then that they MAY lose.
some one get that Picard quote meme about loseing when you do everything right
Xyxox
Hero
But what if they aren't planning on doing any of that because they know they cannot afford the lost good will?
Vaalingrade
Legend
No, just the 80's and early 90's again.
I would assume that they are weighing the cost of the lost good will against the potential increases in revenue that they are projecting from increased monetization, and drooling in anticipation.
GMMichael
Guide of Modos
Please tell me this includes the warlock, Book of Nine Swords, Incarnum, and swift and immediate actions.
You misunderstand me. I was referring to the prevalence of copies of the 3E SRD on the web.
Jadeite
Open Gaming Enthusiast
Swift and immediate actions are part of the Psionic SRD. Warlock, Martial Adept and Meldshapers aren't, but Dreamscarred Press created PFRPG1 versions of the Meldshapers and Adepts. There's also a 3.5 OGL/ PFRPG version of Binding by Dario Nardi.
Peter BOSCO'S
Explorer
Yes, but that is more because people don't realize that ChatBots are how SkyNet begins than because of this.
some links
GitHub - BTMorton/dnd-5e-srd: The Dungeons and Dragons 5th Edition SRD converted to markdown, json and yaml
The Dungeons and Dragons 5th Edition SRD converted to markdown, json and yaml - GitHub - BTMorton/dnd-5e-srd: The Dungeons and Dragons 5th Edition SRD converted to markdown, json and yaml
github.com
GitHub - OldManUmby/DND.SRD.Wiki: Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition SRD converted to Markdown.
Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition SRD converted to Markdown. - GitHub - OldManUmby/DND.SRD.Wiki: Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition SRD converted to Markdown.
github.com
BHH
So what happens to SRDs hosted online, if OGL 1.1 really does (claim to) invalidate OGL 1.0/1.0a? I assume Wizards can't C&D folks for hosting copies of the OGL 1.0/1.0 text, but could they C&D folks hosting the 3.0, 3.5, and 5E SRDs as violating the terms of the only "authorized" OGL (1.1)?
Of course, such an action would utterly fail at wiping the SRDs off the Internet (especially now that folks are motivated to keep them available), but I'm just wondering what they could try to do.
Of course, such an action would utterly fail at wiping the SRDs off the Internet (especially now that folks are motivated to keep them available), but I'm just wondering what they could try to do.
It did occur to me after I posted that the text of the OGL 1.0/1.0a is copyrighted by Wizards and designated as Wizards property...
Burt Baccara
Explorer
I think 3.0 SRD is the only one that is a bit hard to come by. Archive.org looks to have 3.5 SRD and Modern d20's SDR.
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