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<blockquote data-quote="DollarD" data-source="post: 8440241" data-attributes="member: 7024789"><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure :unsure:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":unsure:" /></p><p></p><p>Some of this seems very... dismissive... of how people play D&D or how they choose to spend their time with the game.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, Chris Cocks got his appreciation from D&D from computer games. So did I. We never had D&D around here, so I got my first taste of it via Neverwinter Nights, which included the 3rd edition rules with the game. That's where I learned how D&D works, and how play can happen. I showed by brother, and he got hooked as well. So when he got to university, and there was a small club there, he got into playing at tabletop. When he got back from university, he introduced me to tabletop playing, and I got us a group together.</p><p></p><p>It seems rather unfortunate to dismiss the impact computer games has had on D&D, since without it, my current group would not have existed.</p><p></p><p>In terms of cross-pollination from MtG, well... Of my group's six players, three are avid MtG players. They play both. I'm not sure, but if I were able to guess, the fact that D&D was co-incidentally also a product of WotC gave them confort to try something technically out of their wheelhouse. And probably gave them the confidence that they COULD play as well, given that I'm assuming their are similarities in the skills required to play both games.</p><p></p><p>I'm seeing that as a net positive, especially for my group.</p><p></p><p>Of the six players, two would not be playing without computer games and three would not be playing if not for MtG. The remaining player came from Warhammer 40K/Fantasy.</p><p></p><p>Now, are we 'Normies' or not? Is this a past-time or a hobby for us? I mean, only my brother bought the hardcover books. Two of the players have DnD Beyond purchases. But we play six-hour sessions twice a month, for almost four years now. One of the players used his 3D printer to print miniatures for us, and everyone paints their own minis.</p><p></p><p>We do it semi-regularly, then. I'm playing (other rather DMing) D&D more than I'm playing computer games. During COVID-19, our Roll20 sessions were the most we socialised outside of our families, but we still played.</p><p></p><p>D&D may not be our life. We might not be 'hardcore' players. But we are players nonetheless, and we enjoy our games. I suspect a lot of people engage in the same way with D&D.</p><p></p><p>I guess what I'm trying to say is, we all got on this boat for different reasons, but we all got to the same place. I don't think there one true way to steer the D&D ship, but please don't dismiss the voices of those who got on the ship in a different way from what you prefer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DollarD, post: 8440241, member: 7024789"] :unsure: Some of this seems very... dismissive... of how people play D&D or how they choose to spend their time with the game. Yeah, Chris Cocks got his appreciation from D&D from computer games. So did I. We never had D&D around here, so I got my first taste of it via Neverwinter Nights, which included the 3rd edition rules with the game. That's where I learned how D&D works, and how play can happen. I showed by brother, and he got hooked as well. So when he got to university, and there was a small club there, he got into playing at tabletop. When he got back from university, he introduced me to tabletop playing, and I got us a group together. It seems rather unfortunate to dismiss the impact computer games has had on D&D, since without it, my current group would not have existed. In terms of cross-pollination from MtG, well... Of my group's six players, three are avid MtG players. They play both. I'm not sure, but if I were able to guess, the fact that D&D was co-incidentally also a product of WotC gave them confort to try something technically out of their wheelhouse. And probably gave them the confidence that they COULD play as well, given that I'm assuming their are similarities in the skills required to play both games. I'm seeing that as a net positive, especially for my group. Of the six players, two would not be playing without computer games and three would not be playing if not for MtG. The remaining player came from Warhammer 40K/Fantasy. Now, are we 'Normies' or not? Is this a past-time or a hobby for us? I mean, only my brother bought the hardcover books. Two of the players have DnD Beyond purchases. But we play six-hour sessions twice a month, for almost four years now. One of the players used his 3D printer to print miniatures for us, and everyone paints their own minis. We do it semi-regularly, then. I'm playing (other rather DMing) D&D more than I'm playing computer games. During COVID-19, our Roll20 sessions were the most we socialised outside of our families, but we still played. D&D may not be our life. We might not be 'hardcore' players. But we are players nonetheless, and we enjoy our games. I suspect a lot of people engage in the same way with D&D. I guess what I'm trying to say is, we all got on this boat for different reasons, but we all got to the same place. I don't think there one true way to steer the D&D ship, but please don't dismiss the voices of those who got on the ship in a different way from what you prefer. [/QUOTE]
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