[WOTC] Revised Corebooks for July confirmed with info

[Neowolf]

I don't understand the (few) negative reactions I've seen in this thread so far. Once these revised books come out, it's not like the ones you already own are going to burst into flame or something, forcing you to buy more. If you want the new books, buy them. If you don't want them, don't. Personally, I'm planning to get at least the RPHB, because I'd like to see all the errata and new material incorporated into a core rulebook.

As far as the other two books go, I'll probably at least look at the RDMG. I don't DM a whole lot, but the new prestige classes and item creation rules might be interesting.

As for the RMM, eh... I've already got monsters out the wazoo, I can make more, and I understand the existing stat blocks.

Anyway, my point is that the sky isn't falling and WotC isn't trying to jerk the rug out from under you.

 

[Vuron]

Thus far no Hasbro employee has sold his soul to me to create ritual magic causing the spontaneous combustion of all 3e core books, however I have been in contact with the Christian Coalition and White Wolf concerning the possibilities but to date the CC is more concerned with abortionists and WW is making good money so negotiations have been slow.

 

[LoPaC]

Hasbro just wants our money. They could give 2 s**ts about the game itself, save for keeping us happy. All they care about is which corporate jet they are gonna buy next week. Don't get me wrong, there are changes needed, clarifications and whatnot. But wheres that little promise of low price core books back before 3rd Ed. even hit the stores?!?!? Well, I guess its ok for Corporate America to go back on its promises, because its Corporate America, and they can do that. I know I'll go out and buy the new PHB, but not because its supposedly got "new feats and spells", but because my PHB (which is the original print) looks like the Oriental Adventures book put some mad crazy kung-fu on it. RDM and RMM. If one of my other ones gets worn down, then I buy. Sorry Hasbro, your not getting my extra money, you capitalist pigs!

 

[Darkness]

Lessee...

Currently:
PHB - around 300 pages
DMG - 256 pages
MM - 224 pages

New:
All books - 320 pages

I'll certainly want the new PHB - and the other books get lots of stuff added.
So if much of it is new, I'm game, I guess...

 

[Charwoman Gene]

But wheres that little promise of low price core books back before 3rd Ed. even hit the stores?!?!?

They always were VERY plain spoken about the price increasing to around $30 in the future. They have already done so.

They are inreasing the size of the books and NOT increasing the price. The core books are still cheaper than the supplements, in terms of price per page...

 

[Davelozzi]

This is a good thing, I'm pleased to hear it (okay, read it). People complained about when they did this with Star Wars (of course that was only a year or so after the initial release) but the RCR is a huge improvment over the original core book.

I for one will be glad to have the eratta fixed and have clarified rules for skills and combat. The skill chapters in all of WotC recent books are much better than the one in the current PHB.

The bonus material is just icing on the cake.

I agree that it would've been too soon for a major overhaul but this kind of clean-up is just what the doctor ordered. And as others have mentioned, so long as its compatible with the stuff that's already out, there's really no need to buy them if you don't want them. But I will.

 

[Thorvald Kviksverd]

Just curious...

Do y'all think the changes will be as significant as, say, those made when going from 1e to 2e?

 

[hong]

Just curious...

Do y'all think the changes will be as significant as, say, those made when going from 1e to 2e?

Which brings up the question, if this is going to be 3E 2nd Edition, or 3E 2E, would that make it 5E, or 6E?


Hong "is it even commutative?" Ooi

 

[thalmin]

Just curious...

Do y'all think the changes will be as significant as, say, those made when going from 1e to 2e?

Being a revision, not a new edition, I doubt it.
They said character class revisions. We are doing those on these boards all the time.
Revisions and additions to the spell lists? Note they didn't say new spells.

I would expect bigger changes than we saw with the second style 2nd ed PHB (which was little more than layout change and new art) but much less than a new edition would warrant.

 

[Droogie]

Which brings up the question, if this is going to be 3E 2nd Edition, or 3E 2E, would that make it 5E, or 6E?


Hong "is it even commutative?" Ooi

No. Like bonuses do not stack, except maybe for armor/shield and dodge.

Anyhoo, I hope they revise the CRs in the new MM. That would be worth the price of admission alone