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<blockquote data-quote="WhatGravitas" data-source="post: 3712449" data-attributes="member: 33132">For me, a great deal of the game is fun. Especially on lower levels, being a wizard can be boring, and the wizard is fragile like nothing, so without his big guns, he's more than useless - he's a liability for the rest of the group, and that's bad, because you, as player, drag the rest down AND need protection, possibly without any reward.Let's say, you're a 2nd- or 3rd level wizard and a hard encounter forces you to blow through all resources, then you basically become a commoner.If not for the XP, it'd be better for you to stay behind, while the rest of the group continues to do stuff, because then, they don't have to worry about your hide - and that's less than compelling.Or you spend your money on wands and scrolls, then you keep being powerful all day... but it costs you money - but still, you get more treasure, than you spend - but still, you're a money-drain, just to be more than a commoner - and hence a liability to the party, again (money-wise, this time).While these concepts are engaging story-wise, they're not so fun for the player AND the rest of the group (aside from unwanted slapstick, because the wizard runs around like Chicken Little).They don't have to give the wizards unlimited spells, just give them the ability to be more than a d4-fragility that has a &quot;I win&quot;-button once or twice per day.And if they tone done the &quot;big guns&quot; of the wizard a bit... is this that bad? Wizards can be pretty broken (and hence a spotlight-hugger) - that's neither fun, nor very engaging, even story-wise.Sure, that's a very gamist point of view, but then, it is a game.And concerning &quot;Doesn't he get tired?&quot; - the fighter can bash all the day, doesn't he get tired? So, that's a problem prevalent in the entire game since the beginning.Cheers, LT.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WhatGravitas, post: 3712449, member: 33132"] For me, a great deal of the game is fun. Especially on lower levels, being a wizard [i]can[/i] be boring, and the wizard is fragile like nothing, so without his big guns, he's more than useless - he's a liability for the rest of the group, and that's bad, because you, as player, drag the rest down AND need protection, possibly without any reward. Let's say, you're a 2nd- or 3rd level wizard and a hard encounter forces you to blow through all resources, then you basically become a commoner. If not for the XP, it'd be better for you to stay behind, while the rest of the group continues to do stuff, because then, they don't have to worry about your hide - and that's less than compelling. Or you spend your money on wands and scrolls, then you keep being powerful all day... but it costs you money - but still, you get more treasure, than you spend - but still, you're a money-drain, just to be more than a commoner - and hence a liability to the party, again (money-wise, this time). While these concepts are engaging story-wise, they're not so fun for the player AND the rest of the group (aside from unwanted slapstick, because the wizard runs around like Chicken Little). They don't have to give the wizards unlimited spells, just give them the ability to be more than a d4-fragility that has a "I win"-button once or twice per day. And if they tone done the "big guns" of the wizard a bit... is this that bad? Wizards can be pretty broken (and hence a spotlight-hugger) - that's neither fun, nor very engaging, even story-wise. Sure, that's a very gamist point of view, but then, it [i]is[/i] a game. And concerning "Doesn't he get tired?" - the fighter can bash all the day, doesn't he get tired? So, that's a problem prevalent in the entire game since the beginning. Cheers, LT. [/QUOTE]

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