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<blockquote data-quote="ZombieButch" data-source="post: 3717339" data-attributes="member: 18828">This, right here, gets straight to the heart of the matter as far as I'm concerned. I remember playing a magic-user (back in the days when we had magic-users instead of wizards and sorcerers, and yes, that does make me feel old, thanks for asking!) and particularly at low levels it stunk. You'd either camp every other encounter or run around either throwing daggers away (because you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with one) or pulling out the pom-poms to cheer on the guys who could actually get something done. 3rd edition made it better for spellcasters, but, based on the reactions of my players at least, didn't really make it great. They didn't really get that experience til we switched to other game systems that didn't rely on Vancian-style magic. I'll be the first to admit I was initially skeptical about 4th edition, but everything I'm hearing so far is going a long way towards converting me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ZombieButch, post: 3717339, member: 18828"] This, right here, gets straight to the heart of the matter as far as I'm concerned. I remember playing a magic-user (back in the days when we had magic-users instead of wizards and sorcerers, and yes, that does make me feel old, thanks for asking!) and particularly at low levels it stunk. You'd either camp every other encounter or run around either throwing daggers away (because you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with one) or pulling out the pom-poms to cheer on the guys who could actually get something done. 3rd edition made it [I]better[/I] for spellcasters, but, based on the reactions of my players at least, didn't really make it [I]great[/I]. They didn't really get that experience til we switched to other game systems that didn't rely on Vancian-style magic. I'll be the first to admit I was initially skeptical about 4th edition, but everything I'm hearing so far is going a long way towards converting me. [/QUOTE]

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