Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

However, in terms of responding to this post as a response to The Sigil's post, there seems to be very little in the D&D milieu that says sex or even prostitution is evil or chaotic either one. In fact, in the FR at least, there seems to be a fair amount of circumstantial and indirect evidence to the opposite viewpoint.

Well, there is the fact that all the deities that deal with things like romance and sexual relations are Chaotic (specifically, I'm looking at Sune and Sharess) and the main fertility goddess is Neutral (Chauntea).

 

[Torm]

Well, there is the fact that all the deities that deal with things like romance and sexual relations are Chaotic (specifically, I'm looking at Sune and Sharess) and the main fertility goddess is Neutral (Chauntea).

I wouldn't think that implies that sex itself is Chaotic Neutral, though, so much as that is the alignment that can encompass the full range of alignments that sex can be expressed in. If you have access to the BoEF, it does an excellent job of describing sex by alignment, in my opinion.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

If you have access to the BoEF, it does an excellent job of describing sex by alignment, in my opinion.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that even it puts the sex with prostitutes portion firmly in the Chaotic camp.

 

[Desdichado]

In a fantasy world where a guy says "Be Healed!" and you are, STDs become a minor issue (kinda like the 70's but with better penicillin). While herbal contraceptives are only moderately effective IRL, one would imagine that the combination of magically cultivated plants and alchemists would eliminated unwanted pregnancies.

STDs were only one of my objections, though. And the magically cultivated plants and alchemists as birth control are a handwave. There's absolutely nothing in any D&D book I've ever read to suggest such a thing.

Of course, I'm taking a bit of a devil's advocate position here; I like shilsen's concept. I've suggested something similar to it in the past as about the only concept that would encourage me to actually play a paladin.

 

[Torm]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that even it puts the sex with prostitutes portion firmly in the Chaotic camp.

Really?

Read it.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Really?

Read it.

To do that I'd have to buy it.

Proving or disproving a minor point is not worth the cost ... or the shame!

 

[Alodar]

What's the problem? Some of the most morally upright people I know hide it with a lot of stage dressing and fancy talk. Cedric tries so hard to fit the "dissipated" mold that he's almost got to be half-faking it.

 

[domino]

I would not allow him, no.

 

[Torm]

To do that I'd have to buy it.

Proving or disproving a minor point is not worth the cost ... or the shame!

Okay, then I'll give you the short version - it describes Lawful Good as it pertains to sex as entering into relations in which all involved parties have a clear idea of the terms of the relationship up front - regardless of the nature of the sexual relationship itself - and those terms are abided by.

If that doesn't describe straight forward prostitution, I don't know what does.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Okay, then I'll give you the short version - it describes Lawful Good as it pertains to sex as entering into relations in which all involved parties have a clear idea of the terms of the relationship up front - regardless of the nature of the sexual relationship itself - and those terms are abided by.

If that doesn't describe straight forward prostitution, I don't know what does.

If anything, that sounds like a Lawful Neutral proposition and mindset.