Would you allow this paladin in your game? (new fiction added 11/11/08)

[robberbaron]

I would have no problem with him in my game; I enjoy it when my players come up with interesting characters.
Then again, I have always had some difficulty with Gaxy Gygar's blinkered notions and my current game has paladins of any alignment (though chaotics wouldn't be able to stop themselves transgressing, so would not be paladins for too long) - they are the warriors of their gods and not all gods are LG.

 

[Furby076]

I am all about freedom of speech/writing, but why don't you do your fans and fans of Cedric a favor, gather up the narrative and start a story hour with it. It avoids the confusion.

Why do you care so much?

Actually, older than you think and I despise rap music. You got it wrong again.

I actually didn't have an opinion about your age (never even entered my head). I was quoting a line from Dr. Doolittle. When was I wrong the first time to be wrong again? Also, l2takesarcism.

 

[DM-Rocco]

Why do you care so much?



I actually didn't have an opinion about your age (never even entered my head). I was quoting a line from Dr. Doolittle. When was I wrong the first time to be wrong again? Also, l2takesarcism.

Because it is a topic that causes a lot of ferver and be continuing to add on a line of fiction on a thread like this leads people to believe that the thread is still active and people, after two years, are still talking about Paladins and ethics when it is really now just a story thread.

It should be moved to the story hour, that is what the story hour is for, unless he wants to fan the flame on an old topic again.

 

[Joseph Elric Smith]

Are paladins and ethic, really old topics? Seems to me, that topic is always being discussed.
Ken

 

[Furby076]

Because it is a topic that causes a lot of ferver and be continuing to add on a line of fiction on a thread like this leads people to believe that the thread is still active and people, after two years, are still talking about Paladins and ethics when it is really now just a story thread.

It should be moved to the story hour, that is what the story hour is for, unless he wants to fan the flame on an old topic again.

People are still discussing this issue, in this thread and others. Shilsen just tends to also throw in some of his characters updates in here to give different perspective to the debate. Where it first started "here is a paladin who drinks and uses prostitute services" it now became a more complex debate because shilsen added new features to it (in the form of a story, well because it gives context).

So far there is only one person flaming, and it's you....isn't flaming against forum rules? If you do not like this thread, don't post to it.

-Avi

P.S. Paladin ethics are always being discussed and contested. It's like the abortion debate - it won't end because not everyone agrees.

 

[shilsen]

Well, I have a few story hour threads that I write, none of which are very long or that I update all that much, but I still keep them on the story hour rather than writing in an existing thread that touches a sore subject for some people.

A sore subject? I think it's a subject that got some interesting discussion, but if someone is getting sore about it, that means someone's getting sore about the morality of an imaginary character I made up because it doesn't fit with some imaginary code in a game book. In which case, I'm way too busy being amused about said soreness than caring the least bit about it.

A simple link in your signature gets interested parties to your writing rather than people who reply to a thread link like this. I guess IMO I think you got your answer about this thread and I would have stopped it a long time ago. At the least, I would rewrite the title of the thread. Something like "Cedric's Story so far - Formerly would you allow this Paladin? UPDATED 00-00-0000"

The thread still gets the odd answer to that question, and the fiction provides more context to answering that question. And even if it didn't, does it really matter that much if one thread here doesn't fit your preferences for a matching of title and content?

I am all about freedom of speech/writing, but why don't you do your fans and fans of Cedric a favor, gather up the narrative and start a story hour with it. It avoids the confusion.

I haven't had a single fan of Cedric, or anyone else for that matter, complain about the fiction here. And you really do seem to be the only person who's confused about it. Why do you mind so much if I post some fiction in this thread? It really does sound like you don't like the subject so you're complaining, which is far from being are all about freedom of speech/writing. I do make that claim myself, but that means I don't get to complain about people saying/writing things that I don't care for in places I don't want them to. I fully support their right to do so, even if I may not bother to read/hear what they are propagating.

Because it is a topic that causes a lot of ferver and be continuing to add on a line of fiction on a thread like this leads people to believe that the thread is still active and people, after two years, are still talking about Paladins and ethics when it is really now just a story thread.

As pointed out by a couple of other people already, people here will always be discussing paladins and ethics.

It should be moved to the story hour, that is what the story hour is for, unless he wants to fan the flame on an old topic again.

I never fanned the flames. One thing I made clear from the start was that I wanted this to be a thread where we could intelligently discuss a subject that often leads to acrimony, without descending into flame wars and name-calling. And for the most part, that's precisely what was achieved. If you follow some of my posts on these boards, you'd see that I firmly believe that getting upset about the opinion of a random stranger on a messageboard is really, really silly, which is why I never get into flame wars. So, since you clearly disagree with me, I will be polite and explain my position and suggest we agree to disagree.

Is that okay?

 

[DreadArchon]

Hmm, I thought I voted in this the first time around....

The thread still gets the odd answer to that question, and the fiction provides more context to answering that question. And even if it didn't, does it really matter that much if one thread here doesn't fit your preferences for a matching of title and content?

Plus, it's not like threads never drift... Hmm, we need an eye-rolling smiley.

More on topic, I've always considered that almost all classes could work with just about any alignment, so I dropped the alignment (and most of the fluffier) restrictions in my game. Interesting and thought-out characters like yours are ideal.

Though I doubt that many people here would consider my opinion very relevant. My game contains a Neutral Good Assassin and one of the NPC's (who would be legal under the rules I've set up for PC's) is a Chaotic Evil (core) Paladin who slaughters anyone *not* detecting as evil and uses his smite to get an edge on the competition against other evils.

 

[Mallus]

...that means someone's getting sore about the morality of an imaginary character...

In other news... Magneto was right.

And long live Cedric, Sir Loin of... well... loins.

 

[Need_A_Life]

Amazing story!
I've read the story earlier and read about 1/3rd of the entire thread before going 'dead' on the morality debate.

Shilsen, you're positively brilliant!

Could one perhaps sneak an update out of ya?

 

[shilsen]

Amazing story!
I've read the story earlier and read about 1/3rd of the entire thread before going 'dead' on the morality debate.

Shilsen, you're positively brilliant!

Thanks. That's what I keep trying to tell people

Could one perhaps sneak an update out of ya?

Since I'm going back to India to start my summer break tomorrow, I may be able to do a little more writing about Cedric soon, but I won't make any promises. My story hour gets first priority, but hopefully I'll be able to come up with something for this one too. I'd like to finish writing about that siege situation I started on in a couple of earlier updates.