D&D 4E Would you buy 4E if it were not open/had no licenses for 3rd party companies?

[Hussar]

Its unfortunate really when so few care about open gaming when open gaming brought about some truely great 3rd party companies like Necro, Paradigm, Privateer Press, Green Ronin, Fantasy Flight, Mongoose (in the post Quintessential Series era what I refer to as the Conan D20 and Runequest era), Goodman, Paizo, etc.

I love True20 and ca thank the OGL for its existance.

Honestly, I am teetering on the 4e fence leaning toward "4e can piss off" but a retreat from open gaming would make me fall off onto the "4e can piss off" and "WoTC will never get another dime from me" fence.



Wyrmshadows

Sure, that's true. Open gaming gave us those and more. But, what has it given us lately? Of those you named, only GR, Paizo and Goodman actually do any 3.5 stuff. If 4e was entirely open, as open as 3e, do you really think there would be another rush by small start ups to start cranking out books like we saw in 3e?

I don't think so. So many of the early 3e companies are completely gone, many that survived for a while have moved on to greener pastures and no one seemed poised, as of this time last year, to jump onto the 3.5 bandwagon.

I think everyone seems to forget that the 3rd party publishers were getting thinner and thinner on the ground a year ago. Move forward two more years and no one would be left except those with licensed products. Why do you think that 4e will suddenly entice new players onto the 3rd party publishing field?

 

[Mr. Wilson]

I'd buy closed.

I don't buy very many 3rd party products and I'd miss the few I bought (Dragonlance to be specific), but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

 

[nerfherder]

You realize book/game stores choose what to stock right? They don't have to stock things that don't sell. They stock things they think will sell. They stock 3p stuff not because "mean ol' Green Ronin told them to," they stock it because they find it profitable.

You realise game stores don't necessarily always make the best business decisions.

 

[nerfherder]

Honestly, I am teetering on the 4e fence leaning toward "4e can piss off" but a retreat from open gaming would make me fall off onto the "4e can piss off" and "WoTC will never get another dime from me" fence.

Do you also feel the same way about the other 90% of gaming companies that produce closed content products? Would you never give Chaosium a dime because Call of Cthulhu isn't open?

 

[Xath]

In the future, it would probably be more productive if you didn't start with an insult and considered the possibility that we just don't see some things exactly the same.

Please do not attempt to direct the way that other people post. If you have an issue with a post or poster, report it. That's what we're here for.

 

[diaglo]

Of course I'd buy 4e even if it were completely closed.

I am an epic-level Gaming Whore.

wait.
you flopped at my place.
twice.

i'm claiming to be a Gaming Pimp. cuz i don't think i wanna be a Gaming John.

diaglo "EpicLvL Gaming Pimp" Ooi

 

[Desdichado]

Where's the option for "open has absolutely no impact on me whatsoever so I don't care?"

 

[mxyzplk]

Where's the option for "open has absolutely no impact on me whatsoever so I don't care?"

Oh, it's named differently, it's called "Failure to understand how an open D&D does actually benefit you whether you buy 3p stuff or not."

 

[nerfherder]

Where's the option for "open has absolutely no impact on me whatsoever so I don't care?"

That'll be 3, 4 or 5.

 

[Wormwood]

Oh, it's named differently, it's called "Failure to understand how an open D&D does actually benefit you whether you buy 3p stuff or not."

I'd say that's a fairly radical interpretation of the text.