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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5860113" data-attributes="member: 92511">See now, here is a bit of stuff I see a problem with."Siding with the DM" is not (automatically) "at the expense of the players."This is a collective, group, game...usually of real individuals in the flesh. There are no "sides." Everyone at the table, the DM included, is there to play....to have FUN. To play an imaginary game of Swords & Sorcery or Galactic Fighters & Explorers (and maybe with magic and psionics, too) or Old [USA] West Cowboys & Indians (and maybe with magic or psionics, too) or Spies & Syndicates (and maybe with magic or psionics, too) or Superheroes & Mutants (almost certainly with magic and psionics, too), G-Men & Aliens....whatevvvvver...is to escape the everyday. To be something amazing and fun, for a couple of hours, that you could never normally be. I certainly couldn't be.Everyone is (or, I will venture to say, "should be") there for FUN.Back on topic to what I'm responding to, I think (hope), "bad/powerhungry/vindictive/immature" D/GMs abound, from what I read (thankfully didn't have this problem myself), as do players.There are, I'm sure, plenty of games where it's "Us vs. the GM"...perhaps even by design in some systems. D&D really isn't one of those games, I don't think, in any edition. (Ok, I mean, sure. If you were in EGG's original campaign going through the ToH, maybe. But mid-80's games on, in my experience? No.)Guess the point is, the best any of us, in any genre of RPG, can hope for is a "good" group of people we can get along with (if not actually call  friends). People that we can "play pretend" with for a little while. I, personally, have never found ENworld to be "DM-centric" or even, necessarily, "DM-friendly" in some threads...and I've been more on the DM side of things more than the player for a loooooonnnnngggg time (going on 20 years. Other than PbP's which I've only just discovered since coming to this site -last year? Two years ago? No, not yet- and I must say LOVING it! Thank you [MENTION=48762]Leif[/MENTION] and [MENTION=63]RangerWickett[/MENTION] letting me be a PLAYER again).Humbly yours,--Steel Dragons</blockquote>

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