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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5864824" data-attributes="member: 8835"><p>You don't seem to detect the things I differentiate on.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">not dying is special treatment, dying is normal treatment.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">asking if you can play a certain combination is not the same as asking if the GM can put a specific item in the game for you and is not the same as declaring that your PC is researching where he might find such an item.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">My cultural background about not asking for things has nothing to do with players, it is a social norm for me that can be rude to ask for things. period.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">WotC had years of successful design experience before they changed D&D. This guy has never played D&D and he's trying to change how it works to suit his videogame experience before he's tried it the current way.</li> </ul><p></p><p>it should be commonly considered that any general or broad statement that somebody makes has unspoken conditions, qualifiers and that the speaker is not such an immobile imbecile that they don't assess the situation and apply their general rule only as it applies.</p><p></p><p>Of course you can ask for some things. Can I have seconds? Can you pass the ketchup. Can I go to the park with my friends?</p><p></p><p>there's other things that start crossing the line. Can I have ice cream?</p><p></p><p>The steward of the ice cream decides when its ice cream time. That's the point of them managing that. You'll get ice cream when it's time for it.</p><p></p><p>My examples are silly, but the point is, apparently I have a different social upbringing and thus a different social expectation on what is or is not appropriate when dealing with an authority figure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janx, post: 5864824, member: 8835"] You don't seem to detect the things I differentiate on. [LIST] [*]not dying is special treatment, dying is normal treatment. [*]asking if you can play a certain combination is not the same as asking if the GM can put a specific item in the game for you and is not the same as declaring that your PC is researching where he might find such an item. [*]My cultural background about not asking for things has nothing to do with players, it is a social norm for me that can be rude to ask for things. period. [*]WotC had years of successful design experience before they changed D&D. This guy has never played D&D and he's trying to change how it works to suit his videogame experience before he's tried it the current way. [/LIST] it should be commonly considered that any general or broad statement that somebody makes has unspoken conditions, qualifiers and that the speaker is not such an immobile imbecile that they don't assess the situation and apply their general rule only as it applies. Of course you can ask for some things. Can I have seconds? Can you pass the ketchup. Can I go to the park with my friends? there's other things that start crossing the line. Can I have ice cream? The steward of the ice cream decides when its ice cream time. That's the point of them managing that. You'll get ice cream when it's time for it. My examples are silly, but the point is, apparently I have a different social upbringing and thus a different social expectation on what is or is not appropriate when dealing with an authority figure. [/QUOTE]
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