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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5865290" data-attributes="member: 9037">I am not a fan of 4E. But I think you got my point and that was the game is not the same as it was 40 years ago it has constantly undergone tweaks . I don't agree with all the tweaks.I had forgotten he was LG back in the old days. Back in the old days we played a lot of Forgotten Realms so I am not as familiar with how the gods were aligned in Greyhawk.  I am so used to him now being LN.I am not a sports fan so I will have to take your word for it. Though I am a board game fan and we often play with tweaked rules. I am in the camp that paladins should be LG and that other churches can have holy champions patterned after the paladin class but they should not be called paladins. But maybe a better example would have been a lawful good rogue. I had a player who wanted his rogue to be a spy and scout for the crown he envisioned his character as very loyal, following a code and being about protecting the greater good and he saw his character as lawful good. I waived away the chaotic restriction for that concept. I have only ever been in one English Pub and I don't think they had music. Since I don't drink I don't tend to go to pubs and bars very often so I don't have an opinion. But I take wanting music or TV is a bad thing?</blockquote>