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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5867514" data-attributes="member: 19675">Barring some HRing, the things that let your PCs come back from the dead are neither common nor cheap, thus are not always available.&nbsp; There is always the risk your PC may not come back.&nbsp; Doing away with death from the get-go changes the way you play; you gamble differently.This is why I brought up poker many pages ago.&nbsp; If you play poker with your own money, you pay close attention to your fellow players, the statistics of drawing what you need for your hand to be a winner, and the pot odds.&nbsp; If you play online with the discounted &quot;fake&quot; money, you will see players call with utterly abysmal odds of winning.&nbsp; Routinely.Playing D&amp;D with PC death included is like playing poker with cash.&nbsp; This is YOUR PC that you took all that time to create, and if he dies, he may be gone forever.Without that, it's like playing poker with monopoly money.And besides, those &quot;other consequences?&quot;&nbsp; Well, they exist in games with or without PC death, so that's really not a solid basis for distinction.&nbsp; As i recall, someone upthread proposed a scenario that contemplated wiping rock &amp; roll from history as being an equal substitute for PC death.&nbsp; Great- that certainly is a consequence of note.Now imagine that scenario PLUS PC death.&nbsp; It's easy if you try.&nbsp; Go to hell below you.&nbsp; Above you, the other guys.&nbsp; Imagine all thë NPCs...vandalizing your grave.&nbsp; Woo hooooooo ooh ooh ooh.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5867514, member: 19675"] Barring some HRing, the things that let your PCs come back from the dead are neither common nor cheap, thus are not always available. There is always the risk your PC may not come back. Doing away with death from the get-go changes the way you play; you gamble differently. This is why I brought up poker many pages ago. If you play poker with your own money, you pay close attention to your fellow players, the statistics of drawing what you need for your hand to be a winner, and the pot odds. If you play online with the discounted "fake" money, you will see players call with utterly abysmal odds of winning. [I]Routinely[/I]. Playing D&D with PC death included is like playing poker with cash. This is YOUR PC that you took all that time to create, and if he dies, he may be gone forever. Without that, it's like playing poker with monopoly money. And besides, those "other consequences?" Well, they exist in games with or without PC death, so that's really not a solid basis for distinction. As i recall, someone upthread proposed a scenario that contemplated wiping rock & roll from history as being an equal substitute for PC death. Great- that certainly is a consequence of note. Now imagine that scenario [I]PLUS[/I] PC death. It's easy if you try. Go to hell below you. Above you, the other guys. Imagine all thë NPCs...vandalizing your grave. Woo hooooooo ooh ooh ooh. [/QUOTE]

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