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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7397682" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>I tend to agree that it's better to get expertise because of advantage but it's also worth noting that advantage is pretty solidly better than expertise against most DC's and by magnitude before level 13. </p><p></p><p>For example at level 4 when comparing to DC's 10-25 Advantage is better against 9 of the DC's between the equivalent of +2 to +3 (14.75 highest). The only DC expertise fares better on is DC 25. </p><p></p><p>For example at level 8 when comparing to DC's 10-25 Advantage is better against 9 of the DC's between the equivalent of +1 to +2 (10% highest). There are 3 DC's expertise fares better on and it's not even better on those by the equivalent of +1 (5%). (+2.25% is the highest).</p><p></p><p>Level 9 gets much closer but is still slightly in the favor of Advantage.</p><p></p><p>Level 13 is when expertise becomes clearly better and even then it's only a slight amount better... by about +1 in the best case (+6.25% to be exact)</p><p></p><p>Level 17 is when expertise becomes clearly much better than advantage</p><p></p><p>So I'd rather have advantage if it wasn't easy to get it through allies helping you. There's many skill checks that DM's are reluctant to give out easy help advantage for. On those I'd rather have advantage if I could choose. If it's something I can just about bank on an ally being able to help me with then I'd rather have expertise. If I started level 13+ I'd rather have expertise. Otherwise I'd much rather have advantage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7397682, member: 6795602"] I tend to agree that it's better to get expertise because of advantage but it's also worth noting that advantage is pretty solidly better than expertise against most DC's and by magnitude before level 13. For example at level 4 when comparing to DC's 10-25 Advantage is better against 9 of the DC's between the equivalent of +2 to +3 (14.75 highest). The only DC expertise fares better on is DC 25. For example at level 8 when comparing to DC's 10-25 Advantage is better against 9 of the DC's between the equivalent of +1 to +2 (10% highest). There are 3 DC's expertise fares better on and it's not even better on those by the equivalent of +1 (5%). (+2.25% is the highest). Level 9 gets much closer but is still slightly in the favor of Advantage. Level 13 is when expertise becomes clearly better and even then it's only a slight amount better... by about +1 in the best case (+6.25% to be exact) Level 17 is when expertise becomes clearly much better than advantage So I'd rather have advantage if it wasn't easy to get it through allies helping you. There's many skill checks that DM's are reluctant to give out easy help advantage for. On those I'd rather have advantage if I could choose. If it's something I can just about bank on an ally being able to help me with then I'd rather have expertise. If I started level 13+ I'd rather have expertise. Otherwise I'd much rather have advantage. [/QUOTE]
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