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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 7593729" data-attributes="member: 7006">Heh... yeah, but you, I and everybody else also know that we aren't going to get it, because they've told us from the beginning we weren't going to get it.&nbsp; So every time there's an attempted discussion to lament about this fact... people rightly or wrongly show up to question why you are bothering to have it since its the same discussion that's been had for the past five years with the same complaints and the same reasoning and the same explanations.&nbsp; With the results of the discussion being that nothing is changed.So people right keep wondering what exactly is the point?&nbsp; I mean, if its just to get your voice out there and to hear from a couple other people who agree with you, then okay, I understand that to a certain extent. And as these threads do in fact generate some of those voices, then the threads are succeeding I guess.&nbsp; But in that regard, all the naysayers who show up shouldn't matter or affect your group's collective agreement, because its not as though their voices are stopping your voices from producing tangible effects, because none of our voices are producing *any* tangible effects-- positively or negatively.&nbsp; WotC already has their schedule and they have been successful with it and aren't changing it except on their own time and terms.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 7593729, member: 7006"] Heh... yeah, but you, I and everybody else also know that we aren't going to get it, because they've told us from the beginning we weren't going to get it. So every time there's an attempted discussion to lament about this fact... people rightly or wrongly show up to question why you are bothering to have it since its the same discussion that's been had for the past five years with the same complaints and the same reasoning and the same explanations. With the results of the discussion being that nothing is changed. So people right keep wondering what exactly is the point? I mean, if its just to get your voice out there and to hear from a couple other people who agree with you, then okay, I understand that to a certain extent. And as these threads do in fact generate some of those voices, then the threads are succeeding I guess. But in that regard, all the naysayers who show up shouldn't matter or affect your group's collective agreement, because its not as though their voices are stopping your voices from producing tangible effects, because none of our voices are producing *any* tangible effects-- positively or negatively. WotC already has their schedule and they have been successful with it and aren't changing it except on their own time and terms. [/QUOTE]

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