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<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 9315585" data-attributes="member: 6799660"><p>It is an interesting choice, as the 90s cartoon was the one place* where they didn't include the stuff where Scott was the dick. Not sure why they wanted to bring it into the animated world so long after it became immaterial elsewhere**.</p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><em>*arguably also the early 2000s movie trilogy, where he had like a dozen lines and was really more 'competition for the main character (Wolverine) in the love triangle' than an actual dick.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><em>**original timeline Scott is dead in the comics, right? And irrelevant in the MCU. </em></span></p><p></p><p> Scott, in general, is the same character as Ross from <em>Friends </em>or J.D. from <em>Scrubs </em>or any number of other episodic media characters. All of these, I or someone I know feels like they <u>are</u> the good guys/non-dicks, 'but the writers keep screwing that up*!<em>' </em>They are introduced as sympathetic characters that the audience is supposed to empathize with** and you get the idea that they are 'supposed' to win the female lead's heart at the end or become the best doctor/team leader/whatever. However, in episodic weekly shows or monthly comics, you can't just progress them through a reasonable series of challenges and end up with at the deserved results, as then their story is done. So instead you find things for them to do, and it is so much more dramalicious to have them screw up at being that good character! So they cheat, or lie, or are jealous, or selfish, until it's hard to explain to anyone new to the franchise why you liked them in the first place (maybe something like 'but these transgressions are still being noted/coded as outliers, so they must be being the good guy in between episodes or something...').</p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><em>*acknowledging that it is a nonsensical statement, as the writers make the characters</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><em>**perhaps as an audience surrogate, as they are often more bland and less interesting than all the other characters in the ensemble</em></span></p><p></p><p>That said, Ruin Explorer is right. Scott is a dick the same way that Jean Grey dies all the time or Wolverine teams up with the latest moody teen girl character -- it's happened a handful of times over the past several decades but has become a constant occurrence only in the form of memetic amplification.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 9315585, member: 6799660"] It is an interesting choice, as the 90s cartoon was the one place* where they didn't include the stuff where Scott was the dick. Not sure why they wanted to bring it into the animated world so long after it became immaterial elsewhere**. [SIZE=2][I]*arguably also the early 2000s movie trilogy, where he had like a dozen lines and was really more 'competition for the main character (Wolverine) in the love triangle' than an actual dick. **original timeline Scott is dead in the comics, right? And irrelevant in the MCU. [/I][/SIZE] Scott, in general, is the same character as Ross from [I]Friends [/I]or J.D. from [I]Scrubs [/I]or any number of other episodic media characters. All of these, I or someone I know feels like they [U]are[/U] the good guys/non-dicks, 'but the writers keep screwing that up*![I]' [/I]They are introduced as sympathetic characters that the audience is supposed to empathize with** and you get the idea that they are 'supposed' to win the female lead's heart at the end or become the best doctor/team leader/whatever. However, in episodic weekly shows or monthly comics, you can't just progress them through a reasonable series of challenges and end up with at the deserved results, as then their story is done. So instead you find things for them to do, and it is so much more dramalicious to have them screw up at being that good character! So they cheat, or lie, or are jealous, or selfish, until it's hard to explain to anyone new to the franchise why you liked them in the first place (maybe something like 'but these transgressions are still being noted/coded as outliers, so they must be being the good guy in between episodes or something...'). [SIZE=2][I]*acknowledging that it is a nonsensical statement, as the writers make the characters **perhaps as an audience surrogate, as they are often more bland and less interesting than all the other characters in the ensemble[/I][/SIZE] That said, Ruin Explorer is right. Scott is a dick the same way that Jean Grey dies all the time or Wolverine teams up with the latest moody teen girl character -- it's happened a handful of times over the past several decades but has become a constant occurrence only in the form of memetic amplification. [/QUOTE]
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