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X-Men: First Class
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I think he means from a continually standpoint.
Isn't X-Men Continuity something like Military Intelligence? (e.g. an oxymoron?)
I remember when the Dark Phoenix Saga actually meant something, before it got retconned into insignificance.
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X-Men: First Class
By far the best X-Men movie ever made.
LIKES
- James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender. Any origin story of the X-Men has to deal with the initial friendship of Charles Xavier (Professor X) and Erik Magnus Lensherr (Magneto), and I thought the movie handled it brilliantly, in no small part to McAvoy and Fassbender's wonderful performances. They had great chemistry and their interactions provide a lot of the movie's heart and warmth and humor.
- Supporting Cast that didn't feel useless. My biggest complaint of the previous X-Men flicks was how wasted the large cast of characters felt because of the Wolverine show. Here, every character at least played a part, and their subplots contributed to the story at large, rather than being a distraction. In particular, Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique and Nicholas Hoult as Hank McCoy/Beast were particular standouts.
- Hilarious cameos. [sblock]Much as I'm glad that this film is no longer a Wolverine fest, it was still a LOL moment seeing Hugh Jackman pop up there. I was not expecting to see him so it was a real hoot. And Rebecca Romijn too, that was pretty cool as well. [/sblock]
- Kevin Bacon. I was apprehensive at first when I learned he was gonna play Sebastian Shaw. I should have known better though. Bacon's been great at playing bad guys for years, and his Shaw is a magnificently cold bastard through and through. The way his powers were displayed onscreen was pretty well handled I thought. Made it clear that he was more than a match for Magneto.
- 1960's setting. I really liked that they set this in the Sixties. It gave the film a groovy James Bond feel and it was great twist to include the Cuban Missile Crisis as part of the overarching plot.
- Scale. This film felt big. You really felt the fate of the world was really in the hands of the X-Men. Again it goes back to the brilliant conceit of working the Cuban Missile Crisis into the main plot of the X-Men vs The Hellfire Club.
DISLIKES
- Cheesy score. I thought the musical score was a little cheesy at times. But that's a minor quibble to an otherwise excellent film.
Overall, this flick was great, and makes me hungry for more X-Men films, something the previous two films didn't.
By far the best X-Men movie ever made.
LIKES
- James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender. Any origin story of the X-Men has to deal with the initial friendship of Charles Xavier (Professor X) and Erik Magnus Lensherr (Magneto), and I thought the movie handled it brilliantly, in no small part to McAvoy and Fassbender's wonderful performances. They had great chemistry and their interactions provide a lot of the movie's heart and warmth and humor.
- Supporting Cast that didn't feel useless. My biggest complaint of the previous X-Men flicks was how wasted the large cast of characters felt because of the Wolverine show. Here, every character at least played a part, and their subplots contributed to the story at large, rather than being a distraction. In particular, Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique and Nicholas Hoult as Hank McCoy/Beast were particular standouts.
- Hilarious cameos. [sblock]Much as I'm glad that this film is no longer a Wolverine fest, it was still a LOL moment seeing Hugh Jackman pop up there. I was not expecting to see him so it was a real hoot. And Rebecca Romijn too, that was pretty cool as well. [/sblock]
- Kevin Bacon. I was apprehensive at first when I learned he was gonna play Sebastian Shaw. I should have known better though. Bacon's been great at playing bad guys for years, and his Shaw is a magnificently cold bastard through and through. The way his powers were displayed onscreen was pretty well handled I thought. Made it clear that he was more than a match for Magneto.
- 1960's setting. I really liked that they set this in the Sixties. It gave the film a groovy James Bond feel and it was great twist to include the Cuban Missile Crisis as part of the overarching plot.
- Scale. This film felt big. You really felt the fate of the world was really in the hands of the X-Men. Again it goes back to the brilliant conceit of working the Cuban Missile Crisis into the main plot of the X-Men vs The Hellfire Club.
DISLIKES
- Cheesy score. I thought the musical score was a little cheesy at times. But that's a minor quibble to an otherwise excellent film.
Overall, this flick was great, and makes me hungry for more X-Men films, something the previous two films didn't.
Chemistry - that is the word for it, it was great in this movie. I was not planning on seeing it but am glad I did because this is a very good, wonderful cast, action and special effects.
Continuity? Since when have modern superhero comic books had more than a passing acquaintanceship with continuity? The comic isn't even consistent with itself!
Superhero comics are modern mythology - they change in the retelling.
Not only that, but why would anybody expect the movie version to match the book or comic book. Its already been standardized that movies based on comics do NOT follow the comic book. Let alone any other movie based on a book.
Anybody going into nerdrage because "that's not how it was in the book" is doing it to themselves.
Now the sad thing is, apparently the movie itself has raised its own continuity glitch.
Spoiler alert, just in case...
A friend noticed this, the end of Wolverine has a bald patrick stewart walking and rescuing Scott Summers. The end of this film has a hairy headed Xavier not walking so good.
Now somebody can explain that away as a "he had machine that helped him walk for that mission" but that's just covering a mistake. they probably should have left baldy in a chair, and would have avoided that minor gaff.
Still, overall, a good film.
I thought it was delightful, just full to the brim with smart choices, the best X-Men film so far, and I liked Singer's work.
About the only (really minor) thing I disliked was the change to Sebastian Shaw's powers, making him more of, as my buddy put it, "an evil wizard", rather than a quirkier, kinetic-only energy absorber.
It seemed weird, given the film didn't shy away from the sheer oddity and somewhat unheroic aspect of X-title superpowers (compare them to the standard suite of DC universe abilities).
About the only (really minor) thing I disliked was the change to Sebastian Shaw's powers, making him more of, as my buddy put it, "an evil wizard", rather than a quirkier, kinetic-only energy absorber.
It seemed weird, given the film didn't shy away from the sheer oddity and somewhat unheroic aspect of X-title superpowers (compare them to the standard suite of DC universe abilities).
I was unimpressed. The continuity errors were just too much for me, and being a fan of the comic, I was appalled that Moira was an American...and a secret agent (not a scientist). Banshee was also American, Mystique and Charles were essentially brother/sister, and Havoc appears to be Scotts older brother instead of younger, though they don't make that clear in the movie. It was too much for me.
But, then I discovered that this was supposed to be a reboot instead of a prequel, and I felt a little better. Still didn't like it, though.
But, then I discovered that this was supposed to be a reboot instead of a prequel, and I felt a little better. Still didn't like it, though.
Both you and megamainia imply that "being a fan" is what causes the continuity errors to be painful. I do not think this is true.
You need to be a fan to know there were continuity differences, yes. But the desire to have the comic and movie continuities match in detail does not arise from fandom, in and of itself. I know too many fans who liked the movie, and accepted the differences with aplomb, for this to seem a viable explanation.
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