[yb2-meta] Generator/Poll

[reiella]

Hmm going to try to set this up.

Currently there's a semi-rare possibility of a second location appearing a move. Now this is a rarity in itself and can possibly cause confusion as some judges started judging under the impression of 'if it doesn't appear in the appropiate place, it isn't valid for that power' (like, oh styles appearing anywhere but the style portion of the move) and it doesn't really effect much of anything.

It may slightly weaken the yakuza (by a fraction of power less than half of a single modifier) but it would make judges jobs cleaner if this was fixed.

As an added bonus, it may allow us to put some use behind the Named Locations in the masters that are now antiquated.

Anyway, I'm sure someone else can phrase this better so .

[ Add for attempts at clarity ]
Problem: There is a 1 in 400 chance of a second location coming up in a move.
Reasons this is a problem: Judge confusion, unexpected circumstance when initially balancing pathes beforehand.

Solution 1: Status Quo (Keep the same)
Solution 2: Simply remove the potential for a second location to occur at all and replace with nothing.
Solution 3: Replace the potential for a second location with potential for pulling a named location.
Solution 4: I like pie (Apathy, don't care)

 

[reiella]

Also please post thoughts either way on this if you have any.

To some extent it is a change for its own sake (although there some minor need).

Would be easier for people to decide if they saw more than just my rambling on it .

As for how I came with the masters named locations, well... That's all I could really think of that would fit there. The other (current) possibility is the defensive target, and that would really be the only other one that fits (I believe).

But other possibilities should be mentioned please .

[ Add ]
Another fun tidbit while looking through the generator.

Currently there's one location that's also a defensive target (River).

There's also one style that's also a defensive target (Thorn).

And finally one defensive target is in the defensive target list twice (Spirit).

The only one of these that actually causes a problem is the River, as it becomes indistinquishable as to if it was pulled from the defensive target pool or the location pool for determination of extra point or not. Thorn at least, we have the current assumption that we only care if a style comes up in the style field (although the generator was supposed to remove this chances all together).

 

[reiella]

Well was kinda hoping that other comments would keep it up top rather than me having me to bump it .

Another possibility I suppose would be to create another table, but not too sure how it would vary from the deefnsive target table if at all.

Either way, we probably still need to fix thorn and river in the defensive target list just for matter of sanity .

 

[Zappo]

I'm for the Named Location. They are cool, it's a pity wasting them. Would you get extra weight for your move if you came up with the named location you're fighting in? Considering how unlikely it is, it should be a hefty bonus.

 

[reiella]

Well, the judging decision comes down to the judge for the relative weight either way.

It could add more weight to some the judges (prolly a majority) who like big flashies, but could also hurt it in terms of being alot more awkward to read and poetic.

That part at least goes down to the judges.

[ add is response to nsruf below ]
The judgement rules shouldn't need to be changed either way. If it decided to keep the current possibility, we would need to either clarify as to if the second location field provides an attack benefit (or a defensive benefit if that happens in the future).

We should fix those three problem entries that I mentioned before as well regardless of the result just so we don't get an oddity of someone misinterpreting "resists the thrust of the thorn" to being a move that contains the signature style thorn (and the same with river too really). Spirit is less of a problem and only just a minor quirk, it just means it's twice as likly to show up which has no real effect.

 

[nsruf]

I like named location, too, as long as the judgement rules don't have to be changed.

 

[Zappo]

*shrug* Whatever, for judging. But it would be nice to see them come up every now and then.

 

[reiella]

Appearance enhancement flux!

 

[reiella]

Times two!

 

[MidKnight]

I like the idea of the named location coming up, albiet very rarely. But I don't believe it should carry any additional weight in considering the move.

I could see it granting an extra point if the named location matches the fight location and the move wins. Just treat it like a sig style/location. This way all fighters would benefit from it equally and it would maintain balance.

For clarification (before it comes up...), if someone uses a sneaky trick to change the fight location, it should not change the named location of the fight, just the general location used by judges currently.

edit: Also, it would grant NO immunity in any shape or form...