YES! Jackson to make Hobbit film

[Steel_Wind]

They can also place Arwen at Elrond's House as well if they wish.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Arwen and Galadriel in the film somehow as the only named female I recall in the book at all was Lobielia Sacksville-Baggins and that was only at the end as she was holding the auction at Bag End (And lets face it you can't really sell to the female audience on her).

Well, if they intend to write in the White Council's behind the scene attack on the Necromancer of Dol Guldur, there seems little doubt that Galadriel will be in the movie. I don't even object to including in the movie events that are referenced in LotR, in the Appendices or as happening "off-stage" in the Hobbit itself as if it were in the novel.

My trouble is not in supplementing the film with material we are told happened elsewhere, it is in changing the novel itself so that things that are depcited in the novel do not happen, or happen in a significantly different manner.

It's a fine between clever and stupid.

 

[EricNoah]

Thought of the day: Just as Gollum (the technical side of bringing him to life, and the writing/performance around him) was key to making Two Towers work as a film, I bet they're going to pull out all of the stops on Smaug. I'd love to see them knock that out of the ballpark.

 

[Klaus]

Thought of the day: Just as Gollum (the technical side of bringing him to life, and the writing/performance around him) was key to making Two Towers work as a film, I bet they're going to pull out all of the stops on Smaug. I'd love to see them knock that out of the ballpark.

Judging by the dragon in Beowulf, the guys at WETA Digital have their work cut out for them.

 

[Traycor]

It's not only a question of appearance, although I would disagree with you there as well.

Bilbo in The Hobbit is a much more active role than the Bilbo of LotR. It would be a disservice to the book to tone that down due to concerns about a very old actor. I shudder at the thought of a scene in which Ian Holm is running away from Gollum or, good lord, running around the forest fighting spiders and rescuing dwarves. No, a younger actor is needed if the film is to be taken at all seriously.

While I agree that they probably won't cast Ian Holm, his age isn't really an issue. Ian McKellen had a very actice part as Gandalf (lots of running, frequent fights) and they used doubles and CGI to pull all of that off nicely.

Even Christopher Lee did one killer fight scene with yoda in Star Wars II, and he was old as dirt at the time. They doubled him and CGI'd his face on another guy. Big budget movies can work around these kinds of things.

 

[Odhanan]

They might expand the whole episode of the "Necromancer", Gandalf and Dol Guldur in the second movie, who knows?

 

[horacethegrey]

While I agree that they probably won't cast Ian Holm, his age isn't really an issue. Ian McKellen had a very actice part as Gandalf (lots of running, frequent fights) and they used doubles and CGI to pull all of that off nicely.

Even Christopher Lee did one killer fight scene with yoda in Star Wars II, and he was old as dirt at the time. They doubled him and CGI'd his face on another guy. Big budget movies can work around these kinds of things.

It's easy to accept an elderly Ian Mckellen kicking ass as Gandalf because of the nature of the character. Think about it, the guy's a 4,000 year old wizard who can go toe to toe with trolls and fire demons, all the while looking the part of a decrepit old geezer. A huge suspension of disbelief accompanies the character, one that audiences have come to readily accept. Much like they've come to accept an aging Christopher Lee bitch slapping Hayden Christiansen's ass in Attack of the Clones, what with the whole Jedi thing and all.

 

[RC Hagy]

Much like they've come to accept an aging Christopher Lee bitch slapping Hayden Christiansen's ass in Attack of the Clones, what with the whole Jedi thing and all.

From what I have read and listened to, most were waiting for and glad Hayden got back handed by a geriatric!


RCH

 

[Orius]

You mean you don't think it will be like the book? y'know, Bilbo gets bonked on the head and falls unconscious and wakes up when it is all over? It would sure cut down the CGI costs

Wellllll....

If they want to do it, like the book, they can still bonk Bilbo and show the CG Beorn in a flashback when Gandalf tells him what happened....

But c'mon, Beorn showing up will be a scene the audience'll love, if it's done right. And I think PJ can do it right.

 

[qstor]

Gandalf at this point had convinced the White Council (Elrond, Saruman, Galadriel, and a few other important elves) to attack Dol Guldur to drive Sauron out. This wasn't his first attempt to get the Council to do so, because previously Saruman had resisted. Saruman cooperated at this point because Sauron's agents were snooping around the Gladden Fields were Isildur died, and Saruman was worried that those agents would find the One Ring before his own agents did. Naturally, Gollum had the Ring, and Bilbo ended up with it. And the strike on Dol Guldur was largely meaningless, since Sauron just snuck out and returned to Mordor.

Right but that was years before the events in the Hobbit, I think it would be better if a 2nd movie were the events between the LOTR and the hobbit. However, the problem is there isn't much known about that time period.

Mike

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Me loves some golden compass bomb.

That's the worst feat name yet.