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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pbartender" data-source="post: 913286" data-attributes="member: 7533">Actually, I did mean spellcraft.  I hadn't realized you were making a new skill too.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  Remember you could also give synergy on this skill check from Knowledge (arcana).  Feats such as Skill Focus could also enhance it.Correct.Correct.Not quite.  I was suggesting that the subdual damage be equal to Spell level + Caster level.  It makes it easy on the math, since the skill check DC is just the subdual damage + 10.So a 1st level caster casting a Magic Missile would take 2 points of subdual,  A 5th level caster casting magic missile would take 6 points of subdual.  Of course, using this method, the 5th level caster couls choose to tone down the MM to 1st caster level, and only take 2 points.  Make sense?Cast at their minimum caster levels (for Cleric or Wizard), spells woud deal the following subdual damage...0th - 1 point1st - 2 points2nd - 5 points3rd - 8 points4th - 11 points5th - 14 points6th - 17 points7th - 20 points8th - 23 points9th - 26 pointsRemember, an average 10th level Wizard with a constitution of 12 would have about 35 hit points, and he could cast up to 5th level spells.Be warned, I've never really had a chance to play test these ideas.</blockquote>

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