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You can't fire me, I QUIT!!

IANAL, but I would HIGHLY DOUBT the legality of that document. I mean, if you commit a crime in one state, you either get tried in that state (on a state charge) or tried in a federal court (on a federal charge), right?

Any lawyers up in the hizzouse wanna help Mike out?
 

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Tarrasque Wrangler said:
IANAL, but I would HIGHLY DOUBT the legality of that document. I mean, if you commit a crime in one state, you either get tried in that state (on a state charge) or tried in a federal court (on a federal charge), right?

Any lawyers up in the hizzouse wanna help Mike out?

No, that is probably ok in most states. These are typically referred to (if I remember correctly from contracts class) "choice of law" or "choice of venue" clauses. These kinds of things are done all the time.

<EXAMPLE>
I run an office in Boston, you run an office in San Fran, but we want to agree that all lawsuits will be adjudicated in a neutral forum, such as in New York and by New York law. There are lots of other reasons to do so (some states have more favorable business law regarding certain things than other which might lead someone to suggest that states as a forum)
</EXAMPLE>

Now, certain states will, for policy reasons, simply not give any force to such provisions and Kentucky very may well be one of them.

Again, not a lawyer, just a lawstudent...you should contact your own attorney for you own legal advice.

But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night... :p

-matt
 

Spoony Bard said:
Legally they don't have to pay anything. The trucking industry is the only one that enjoys a no-minimum wage protection.

Agriculture. Some wacky, wacky laws around agriculture.

Quick Facts:
The minimum wage has remained the same for most agricultural and non-agricultural employees since 1978.
There is no requirement to pay overtime wages to employees in agriculture because of the seasonality of production.
Any employer in agriculture that did not use more that 500 “man days” of agricultural labor in the previous calendar quarter is exempt from the minimum wage provisions.

Minimum wage standards were enacted into law in 1938. Since that time, there have been 26 changes to the wage standard with the latest change coming into effect September 1, 1997. The initial law covered only employees engaged in interstate commerce or those in the production of goods used for interstate commerce. The number of occupations included in the minimum wage laws has steadily increased until, at present, the majority of jobs in the United States are covered. Colorado law requires the same minimum wage standards as the federal government.

I don't think this is political, but I could eb wrong. :)
 
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Spoony Bard said:
The attorney general of Nebraska is related to the owners of Werner. Hell, the secretrary of transportation in Nebraska a Werner.

I'd say you should probably start with the Department of Labor in Nebraska. I imagine they'd have jurisdiction over this anyway. Maybe the family tree doesn't fork into that department.

Spoony Bard said:
I live in Kentucky, and Kentucky has refused to recognize such documents before and go ahead and sue companies outside the state before, so here's hoping.

Okay, I'll tell you up front, this is a stretch. If they were sending your checks from a home office in Nebraska to your home in Kentucky, they're ripping you off in another state. That may be a federal issue. Interstate commerce and all that.

I am not a lawyer and do not play one on TV.
 



Spoony Bard said:
Friday I quit my job at Werner. In the month of June they missed one paycheck, paid $200 on two of them and $700 on another. Let's do the math here...

$900 / 280 (number of hours worked that month)

That comes out to $3.22 / hour for the month.

By contrast in may I was making $700 / week, or $10 an hour. I'm not sure what happened in payroll, but I wish to God it wasn't legal. Unfortunately it is - truck drivers are exempt from protection under the minimum wage act.

Oh well, I'm taking the week off to work on some things on the site and to look for a job that actually is worth my time.

Slavers are everywhere. Just an anecdote from today:

I was looking at job offers (weekly classified advertisements) on the Internet. I just noticed one where it was asked for a person who basically would have to be proficient in two different professions. As it was for the publishing /advertising sector, the job did require to be both a competent writer and a competent graphic designer. Then, the job required to be fast, and to make a lot of working hours. Well, I was curious to know how much it was paid when I noticed it was not paid at all! It was proposed as a training course!

Okay, I need to explain: In France, when a student has finished his studies, he/she often has to first go through a training period in some company before getting a real job. That is, the student is a graduate, but doesn't yet know the actual job very well, so is supposed to learn it during a 1 to 3 months period working at this company. It means he/she will work, but being still ineffective it is seen as a training course rather than truly working for the company, thus the student is not paid.

The problem is, that many companies use such students needing a training course, to have people who work for free. But in the above case, it was worst than anything I had seen until then. They wanted someone competent, fast, and working a lot, in two different professions, for no salary at all!!

I answered to the job offer in insulting them. :mad:
 
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Has this happened before? Heck, I work for a bunch of Brits and Canadians (the folks at E.N. Publishing), and it takes about a month for a check to reach me from there for some weird reason. Then another month for me to cash it. And after that, I'm still making about $1.50 an hour.

Hmm. Maybe I should sue Russ. . . . *grin*

Sorry to hear of your woes, me amigo. But it could be worse. I once heard that the trucking industry's worst disaster occured at some gas station in the middle of nowhere, where this weird truck with the green goblin's face on it went on a rampage, despite having no driver. They said it was something involving UFOs, but thankfully the U.S. Military was able to manually launch a nuke and take down the alien bastards.
 

Turanil said:
Slavers are everywhere. Just an anecdote from today:

[...]

Okay, I need to explain: In France, when a student has finished his studies, he/she often has to first go through a training period in some company before getting a real job. That is, the student is a graduate, but doesn't yet know the actual job very well, so is supposed to learn it during a 1 to 3 months period working at this company. It means he/she will work, but being still ineffective it is seen as a training course rather than truly working for the company, thus the student is not paid.

The problem is, that many companies use such students needing a training course, to have people who work for free. But in the above case, it was worst than anything I had seen until then. They wanted someone competent, fast, and working a lot, in two different professions, for no salary at all!!

I think that's called an Intern in the US.

AR
 


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