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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 9170771" data-attributes="member: 5142">There are a number of issues that impair me from doing so, which tends to make such efforts pretty pointless. (1) I can't find people in my area who want to play it. I prefer playing face-to-face. Here in Vienna, my D&D choices were limited to people running/playing either 5e (generally players age <25) or OSR and B/X (mostly players age 50+). I will be moving to Hamburg in less than a month, so things may change, but I'm not terribly optimistic about my prospects. (2) I don't have hard copies of my books anymore,* which makes it difficult to share with a group. I do have some pdfs. However, I think that 4e D&D first needs an OSE-style revision and clean-up to hammer out the bugs. It's a bit too much work for me otherwise because I am out of practice with doing that sort of live maintenance work. My time with 4e was almost entirely as a player. * Moving overseas involves a lot of cutting back. (3) Also, believe it or not, but I don't necessarily want to play 4e D&D. There is a lot of great innovative game design in 4e, but I also think that the hobby has come a long way since then in terms of design. I still wish that 5e D&D didn't throw out so many babies with the bathwater when it came to those design innovations made by 4e, because I see so many 5e DMs and groups online reinventing the wheel. I would still like to see D&D return to some of those innovative 4e elements in the future, but I'm also not holding my breath. I think that my ideal D&D probably game sits in a weird nebulous cloud between 4e, D&D 5e, Pathfinder 2, and Shadow of the Weird Wizard (all set in the Nentir Vale World Axis mythos, of course <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) but that took a few design and advice cues from some indie games.(4) Finally, it must be acknowledged that there are some other games out there that scratch a similar but not identical itch (e.g., Lancer/Icon, Beacon, Fabula Ultima, Shadow of the Weird Wizard, Stonetop, etc.). But finding groups for these games also come with their own problems.</blockquote>

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