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<blockquote data-quote="WarlockLord" data-source="post: 4267682" data-attributes="member: 40098">First, I'd like to start by saying I will probably buy the new edition, mainly so as to play &quot;stupid player races&quot; (no LA drow cough cough)/&nbsp; However, I see truth in many of these points.&nbsp; The subscription model, the non-lethal combat (It's like RUNESCAPE! MOST BORING MMORPG EVER!!!), the fanboyz (&quot;4e will replace sex&quot; was the official line the day it was announced), the 1 hp minions (Grark broke a nail! Oh noes!).&nbsp; I don't know if anyone else has this peeve, but it seems like they are also trying to shove spell/ability flavor done your throat.&nbsp; Gone are the days of signature magic missile.&nbsp; I don't need a perfect description of my character's spells appearance, because I enjoy making up signature spells.Also, rituals.&nbsp; I like the concept, but must every non-combat spell be a ritual?EDIT:&nbsp; Also, I hate the death of flexibility in the name of the great god Balance (I guess illusions won't be make your own image anymore.&nbsp; Can't pinpoint the source though).&nbsp; And, most of the stuff that has always (to my knowledge) been in the D&amp;D core rules, such as necromancy and illusion, isn't here because it might do something that the fighter can't and hurt his little feelings.&nbsp; Summoning isn't here...considering that mythological origins of magic are summoning, this is just...wrong.&nbsp; Most of the interesting abilities have been nerfed or altered.&nbsp; I will buy 4e to give it a fair chance, and I do like some things, but I have a lot of grievances I hope WoTC fixes in some of their next books.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WarlockLord, post: 4267682, member: 40098"] First, I'd like to start by saying I will probably buy the new edition, mainly so as to play "stupid player races" (no LA drow cough cough)/ However, I see truth in many of these points. The subscription model, the non-lethal combat (It's like RUNESCAPE! MOST BORING MMORPG EVER!!!), the fanboyz ("4e will replace sex" was the official line the day it was announced), the 1 hp minions (Grark broke a nail! Oh noes!). I don't know if anyone else has this peeve, but it seems like they are also trying to shove spell/ability flavor done your throat. Gone are the days of signature magic missile. I don't need a perfect description of my character's spells appearance, because I enjoy making up signature spells. Also, rituals. I like the concept, but must every non-combat spell be a ritual? EDIT: Also, I hate the death of flexibility in the name of the great god Balance (I guess illusions won't be make your own image anymore. Can't pinpoint the source though). And, most of the stuff that has always (to my knowledge) been in the D&D core rules, such as necromancy and illusion, isn't here because it might do something that the fighter can't and hurt his little feelings. Summoning isn't here...considering that mythological origins of magic are summoning, this is just...wrong. Most of the interesting abilities have been nerfed or altered. I will buy 4e to give it a fair chance, and I do like some things, but I have a lot of grievances I hope WoTC fixes in some of their next books. [/QUOTE]

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