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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4268638" data-attributes="member: 710">I believe that it fails for you in the D&amp;D part. As an example, el-remmen has described what kind of things he likes from his D&amp;D game. For me, they don't sound like the D&amp;D I played, and I would want to play. Maybe my D&amp;D is not the &quot;True D&amp;D&quot;, but what I prefer to think is that D&amp;D can be different things to different people. It matters which edition they &quot;grew up&quot; with (if you can grow up with something at the age of 20) and they had the most fun it. (And if they never had fun it, they probably think of D&amp;D as something bad and the bane of all good role-playing, and play Vampire or Das Schwarze Auge... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )And 4E so far doesn't fail to be D&amp;D for me. But it might very well fail for you or el-remmen at being D&amp;D.(And why am I posting this in the &quot;anti 4E&quot; thread? Because I want to force everyone to accept and admit that his understanding of D&amp;D is not the only true form, damn it! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4268638, member: 710"] I believe that it fails for you in the D&D part. As an example, el-remmen has described what kind of things he likes from his D&D game. For me, they don't sound like the D&D I played, and I would want to play. Maybe my D&D is not the "True D&D", but what I prefer to think is that D&D can be different things to different people. It matters which edition they "grew up" with (if you can grow up with something at the age of 20) and they had the most fun it. (And if they never had fun it, they probably think of D&D as something bad and the bane of all good role-playing, and play Vampire or Das Schwarze Auge... ;) ) And 4E so far doesn't fail to be D&D for me. But it might very well fail for you or el-remmen at being D&D. (And why am I posting this in the "anti 4E" thread? Because I want to force everyone to accept and admit that his understanding of D&D is not the only true form, damn it! ;) ) [/QUOTE]

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