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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4271935" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>I think it's pretty clear what their initial plans where. 1st level would have Racial Powers, Paragon Paragon Paths, and Epic would have Epic Destinies. </p><p></p><p>But apparently, they figured it didn't work out as well as they hoped. I remember a designer comment that said they figured that due to the limits to level 1-10, race still lost its meaning after 10th level. Maybe this was just a designer worry, or it was common playtest feedback (we might never know.) So, we now have racial feats, some becoming available at paragon or epic tier. There should probably be more of them. I think it wouldn't hurt if there were also Racial Paragon Path (aka Diamond Throne Racial Levels) or Racial Powers that you could take via multiclassing.</p><p></p><p>For 3E, I prefer the idea of using racial abilities advancing over all levels, parallel to all other development. Racial levels always force to give you up abilities in the class you actually want to have, and substitution levels are limited to a few classes.</p><p></p><p>So, at 5, 10th, 15th and 20th level, your race (or maybe your dragonmark, or your bloodline, depending on setting and preferences) could grant another ability. Maybe something like this:</p><p>Elf (5th): Fey Step - Dimension Door once per day; +1 to Dex or Int</p><p>Elf (10th): Elven Lore - Reroll one Knowledge Check per day, and attempt any Knowledge Check as if trained: +1 to Int or Wis</p><p>Elf (15th): Elven Harmoy - Reroll one Balance, Concentration or Diplomacy Check or Will Save per day. +1 to Wis or Cha</p><p>Elf (20th): Elven Perfection - +1 to Dex, Wis, Cha and Int.</p><p>Racial feats could give extra uses of these abilities. </p><p></p><p>Off course, this might be unbalanced and overpowered, but I think such a subsystem would work pretty well with something like Pathfinder, that is already changing the game balance.</p><p></p><p>/threadcap</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4271935, member: 710"] I think it's pretty clear what their initial plans where. 1st level would have Racial Powers, Paragon Paragon Paths, and Epic would have Epic Destinies. But apparently, they figured it didn't work out as well as they hoped. I remember a designer comment that said they figured that due to the limits to level 1-10, race still lost its meaning after 10th level. Maybe this was just a designer worry, or it was common playtest feedback (we might never know.) So, we now have racial feats, some becoming available at paragon or epic tier. There should probably be more of them. I think it wouldn't hurt if there were also Racial Paragon Path (aka Diamond Throne Racial Levels) or Racial Powers that you could take via multiclassing. For 3E, I prefer the idea of using racial abilities advancing over all levels, parallel to all other development. Racial levels always force to give you up abilities in the class you actually want to have, and substitution levels are limited to a few classes. So, at 5, 10th, 15th and 20th level, your race (or maybe your dragonmark, or your bloodline, depending on setting and preferences) could grant another ability. Maybe something like this: Elf (5th): Fey Step - Dimension Door once per day; +1 to Dex or Int Elf (10th): Elven Lore - Reroll one Knowledge Check per day, and attempt any Knowledge Check as if trained: +1 to Int or Wis Elf (15th): Elven Harmoy - Reroll one Balance, Concentration or Diplomacy Check or Will Save per day. +1 to Wis or Cha Elf (20th): Elven Perfection - +1 to Dex, Wis, Cha and Int. Racial feats could give extra uses of these abilities. Off course, this might be unbalanced and overpowered, but I think such a subsystem would work pretty well with something like Pathfinder, that is already changing the game balance. /threadcap [/QUOTE]
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