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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 4274946" data-attributes="member: 7883">Good point....I kind of feel the same way.  4E isn't devoid of merit....it's just that when I look over the three books, I have to throw so much of it out in order to get to the good stuff, that I'm wondering if it would be better to just cherry pick the stuff I want.I like the idea of a condition track, and the concept of opposed roles.  At least with respect to using skills for social effects (Diplomacy, Bluff, etc.) opposed roles are probably the best.I like the idea of powers....but in 3E, I can get those out of Tome of Battle.I also like the idea of the Eladrin and the Feywild....but I've already got "Faeries" from Bastion Press, Van Richten's Guide to the Shadow Fey, and Complete Guide to Fey, and between the three of them, they do what I need anyways.Even the Dragonborn, in concept, I don't mind...but we've got mechanics for them already.....using the 4E Dragonborn would simply be a matter of applying their fluff to the stats from Races of the Dragon or whatever.But the video gamey feel?  Clerics who aren't spellcasters?  Losing all these classes?  200 year old elves?  The drastically reduced equipment?  The fact that most of the powers for the different classes are very, very close stat-wise, and only differ in their fluff?I'll admit, leafing through it at the store today, the books look great.  They obviously have high production values.  But it's evident from the wider margins, the larger type face, and the profusion of huge colour spreads taking up 1.5 pages, and other images taking up such huge segments of the book, that there's far less to it.People seemed to be receiving it positively at the store.  But then, many were just flipping through the books....so maybe they haven't sat down with them and really read them yet.....or, maybe I'm "wrong", in not liking them.  Who knows?Banshee</blockquote>

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