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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 4280137" data-attributes="member: 65637">I agree with a lot that has been said.  Now some things that haven't been said:Nothing is permanent.  Medusas no longer turn you into stone; or rather, you magically turn OUT of stone once combat is over.  In fact, that's how combat works - each bit of combat is it's own withdrawn thing completely unconnected to everything else in the game.Maze.  Oh god, maze.  See sig for more.The lack of identify is a sore spot for me.  It just screams of dumbing things down.  "We found identifying things could sometimes be challenging, so we removed that!"Really, that above covers a lot of my problems with 4e.  There's a sense of "We didn't think x was fun.  It's gone now."  The problem is, they just removed something that other people did find fun.  They didn't made it a side bit, or "If you like x, you could y instead."  They just got rid of it.Someone else here used the phrase "Going to a doctor for a sore toe and they cut off your foot."  That really hits a lot of my thoughts on 4e.</blockquote>