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<blockquote data-quote="noretoc" data-source="post: 4288226" data-attributes="member: 1276">so I say again, every minion in the word is unliucky.&nbsp; Is there a god of minions who hates his followers?&nbsp; Is there a curse on them?&nbsp; Heck, I'll play a minion and go on a quest to lift it.&nbsp; There is a difference between EVERY minion be klilled by a single shot, or a player rolling a few 1s,&nbsp; Unless you mean you have players that roll 1s every roll.&nbsp; I will not believe you.&nbsp; Not with the amount of rolling you do in a 4ed game.&nbsp; The work it would take to find a reason why minion are in the game that makes sense for the campaign world, are not wort the fun they bring in.Monsters in my game have varied reason for fighting till they die.&nbsp; Again, we are not talking about just a single minded race, we are talking every minion of every race every where, world without end.&nbsp; In my campaign orc run away when they lose the advantage of number, or see a bunch of thier dead tribemen.&nbsp; But nor minions, according to the book.&nbsp; They are there just to die...&nbsp; One, I play a narrative game.&nbsp; I don't want to play one that break sense.&nbsp; Two, I didn't say it was badly designed.&nbsp; I am explaining what I don't like about it.That is the point of this whole thread.&nbsp; Your the one who came in and started arguing.&nbsp; What is it about 4ed people that take this personal.&nbsp; No matter how many of us that don't like the game say it is probably a good fit for other people, and that it is fun for others, they still feel the need to defend why it should be fun for us too.&nbsp; It is as if THEY made the game, and have to defend it to thier last breath.&nbsp; Just relax, and realize that there are thoes of us that don't like it.&nbsp; You can like it.&nbsp; You can play it.&nbsp; You can have fun with it.&nbsp; I don't, and this thread is for me to share why with others who either do or don't.&nbsp; And come on my OoTS spoof was funny!!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="noretoc, post: 4288226, member: 1276"] so I say again, every minion in the word is unliucky. Is there a god of minions who hates his followers? Is there a curse on them? Heck, I'll play a minion and go on a quest to lift it. There is a difference between EVERY minion be klilled by a single shot, or a player rolling a few 1s, Unless you mean you have players that roll 1s every roll. I will not believe you. Not with the amount of rolling you do in a 4ed game. The work it would take to find a reason why minion are in the game that makes sense for the campaign world, are not wort the fun they bring in. Monsters in my game have varied reason for fighting till they die. Again, we are not talking about just a single minded race, we are talking every minion of every race every where, world without end. In my campaign orc run away when they lose the advantage of number, or see a bunch of thier dead tribemen. But nor minions, according to the book. They are there just to die... One, I play a narrative game. I don't want to play one that break sense. Two, I didn't say it was badly designed. I am explaining what I don't like about it. That is the point of this whole thread. Your the one who came in and started arguing. What is it about 4ed people that take this personal. No matter how many of us that don't like the game say it is probably a good fit for other people, and that it is fun for others, they still feel the need to defend why it should be fun for us too. It is as if THEY made the game, and have to defend it to thier last breath. Just relax, and realize that there are thoes of us that don't like it. You can like it. You can play it. You can have fun with it. I don't, and this thread is for me to share why with others who either do or don't. And come on my OoTS spoof was funny!!! [/QUOTE]

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