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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 4298805" data-attributes="member: 3929">Ah. Yes. "LOL". So after reason has been attempted, we should abandon it for name calling. Brilliant. And I'm sure some folks are afraid of change. It's only a matter of how they digest these changes and expel that digestion back into the world.I don't like the change in these forums: the Rules forum has split, and traffic is way down for the 3e rules; I used to spend a lot of time there, because that's where the rules discussions were. 4e didn't maliciously take the Rules Forum from me, it's simply a result of its existence that people are discussing other rules.I don't like the loss of Dungeon and Dragon: I have a magazine rack next to my porcelain throne where I have my old issues; those issues will never be updated.I don't like rabid edition-warring name calling, on either side: that's what we had on these boards for a good while until the moratorium.I don't like one of my groups going 4e: the campaign we have can't be converted 1-to-1. So we start a new campaign instead, with the loss of character development, backstory and ass-kickery; my half-orc bard/dread pirate will be sent to see old Hob, and such a loss!All of those changes are incidental to 4e, and have nothing to do with the merits of the system itself. And yet those changes have a real effect on my enjoyment of DnD. So it's not unreasonable for 4e proponents to accuse detractors of hating 4e for reasons unrelated to the system unless those reasons are explicitly stated in your posts. Calling it a heap of rubbish (which it may indeed be) doesn't mean anything if you don't elaborate on why it is a heap.Yeah. Poor execution for some of the designs. Some of the design ideas were clever; the racial bonus progression that was dropped was the big one for me.The infinite aether of the interweb has enough room for your ridiculous dislikes. Actually, I somewhat curious: with the vitriol you heaved at 4e, I'm interested to know what the big stumbling blocks for you are.</blockquote>

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