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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5896310" data-attributes="member: 9037">If you are up front at the beginning that this is how you run games and your players agree to it and then get upset and throw a fit then yeah they are being whiny.But I am going to point out that I would never choose to play in your game because it is not my style of gaming. I prefer a game that has in place things to make permanent death less likely like action or fate points.This is how my group choose to play we are not a bunch entitled whiny players. We have found that to much death impacts the role playing aspect of the game. It stops players from investing in their characters and encourages a kind of granny style play where people become afraid to do anything. To us it is not a fun way to play.The great thing about RPGs is the freedom to play them in different ways with one way not being better than another. I don't understand why some people who play let the dice fall where they may or run deadly campaigns have this habit of looking down their noses at players and DMs who don't like playing that way. Like some how we are playing the game wrong.</blockquote>