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<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 5896837" data-attributes="member: 51930">In Old School gaming?&nbsp; Yes, yes there is: it's called the table where people roll up new characters because their dim-witted clueless ones did something dim-witted and clueless!Old School D&amp;D involves life or death struggles against elite human beings, deadly monsters and cunning traps.&nbsp; While comedy relief is good, great even, if you're letting the dice fall where they may you can't expect someone playing an idiot to survive.However, if it's about Role-playing, as Elf Witch said, you need an environment where people can invest in their characters.&nbsp; It's a different style of play.I like the challenge of keeping my character alive, though I want it to be a fair challenge: no gimping PCs because the GM doesn't want to &quot;lose&quot;.&nbsp; I've had that, and it's no fun.&nbsp; I just don't like being&nbsp; used as a plaything by the GM, whether or not it's an RP environment or a Fall-where-they-may environment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 5896837, member: 51930"] In Old School gaming? Yes, yes there is: it's called the table where people roll up new characters because their dim-witted clueless ones did something dim-witted and clueless! Old School D&D involves life or death struggles against elite human beings, deadly monsters and cunning traps. While comedy relief is good, great even, if you're letting the dice fall where they may you can't expect someone playing an idiot to survive. However, if it's about Role-playing, as Elf Witch said, you need an environment where people can invest in their characters. It's a different style of play. I like the challenge of keeping my character alive, though I want it to be a fair challenge: no gimping PCs because the GM doesn't want to "lose". I've had that, and it's no fun. I just don't like being used as a plaything by the GM, whether or not it's an RP environment or a Fall-where-they-may environment. [/QUOTE]

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