Your Feelings on Dungeon/Poly

[Olive]

so it appears Iron Chef and the other Poly-haters are the stridently vocal minority.

 

[rpgHQ]

I buy it for the poly side.

I dont get why folks want premade adventures, I like long multi-adventure storylines and plots. Some oft he dungoen adventures are good for minng ideas and using hte maps for use in oyur own adventure creations in a bigger campaign, but I think Poly gives oyu the more resources not dungeon. I dont use anything from dungeon or ppoly as is out of the box, not one of the mini campaigns from poly but i do get ideas fromt hose things and always looking at how they do rules and implement things to check against my own house rules or even to inset rule bits from poly into my campaigns or replace house rules i have even.

Anyhow poly has the most use for whatever type of d20 game you run. I think the majority of folks who buy it for Dungeon side are not even dedicated GM's, just players who like looking at maps and/or imagining their fav char going thru the adventure, or the sunday gamers who play 'pickup' type games(one player DMs one week, another player DMs the next and its always just out of the box adventures), not long term campaigns GMs/players.

The price of the magazine of late sure does hurt the wallet though.

 

[rounser]

I dont get why folks want premade adventures, I like long multi-adventure storylines and plots.

This is mindlessly easy to do with Dungeon adventures - in fact, it lets me concentrate on story arcs by taking care of details.

Some oft he dungoen adventures are good for minng ideas and using hte maps for use in oyur own adventure creations in a bigger campaign, but I think Poly gives oyu the more resources not dungeon.

Don't forget NPC stats, that's a big thing to mine too. What resources does Poly give you, rules for hand guns and mecha for your D&D campaign?

I dont use anything from dungeon or ppoly as is out of the box

Nor do I. The dungeons are usually too long or full of redundant material (timewasting rooms with nothing interesting in them for instance).

Anyhow poly has the most use for whatever type of d20 game you run.

You say that, and don't provide examples. Some of us play "D&D" rather than "d20".

I think the majority of folks who buy it for Dungeon side are not even dedicated GM's, just players who like looking at maps and/or imagining their fav char going thru the adventure, or the sunday gamers who play 'pickup' type games(one player DMs one week, another player DMs the next and its always just out of the box adventures), not long term campaigns GMs/players.

I think that the majority of folks who buy it for the Poly side are just into daydreaming about d20 campaigns that they'll never run, and satisfying their powergaming itch by drooling over crunch to power up characters they'll never make. They also like to see the d20 flag waved because it satisfies the notion that "d20 can do anything", which they feel needs to be proved to the rest of the RPG community. They like reading crunch more than they like playing the game.

 

[hellbender]

Maybe I'm just tired and slightly angry, but I just can't stand this any more. I am not singling out mr. Chef here. Anyone who doesn't like Dungeon/Polyhedron doesn't have to buy it, period. And if you don't buy it, you have no business complaining about it, either.

Hey, good idea! Let us all either just buy the magazine and be happy with options/features that come and go or just plain don't buy it! After all, the people at Paizo are all psychic and can figure out why people aren't buying their product anymore! Sheer bloody genius!


hellbender

 

[Olive]

I think that the majority of folks who buy it for the Poly side are just into daydreaming about d20 campaigns that they'll never run, and satisfying their powergaming itch by drooling over crunch to power up characters they'll never make. They also like to see the d20 flag waved because it satisfies the notion that "d20 can do anything", which they feel needs to be proved to the rest of the RPG community. They like reading crunch more than they like playing the game.

Now this is just rude.

a) I like thinking about games. What's wrong with that?

b) What on earth is powergaming about getting a kick out of thinking about the various different game systems that Poly presents?

c) I do think that d20 can pretty much do anything, at the level of realism it sets out for itself. I don't think any of the genres tackled with d20 so far have been a failure, and if individual games are bad (Dragonriders of Melinbone frex) that's bad design in an individual case, not a bad overall system. As for flag waving to the rest of the RPG community, whatever. I could care less about the rest of the community outside of my gaming group. I just like the ideas printed in poly. What exactly is the problem with that?

 

[rounser]

Now this is just rude.

So is what rpgHQ posted. View it in the context of a counterattack to his points - just as valid, just as vacuous.

 

[sircaren]

I like them both as is. Good job Paizo.

Incursion was great!

 

[Olive]

So is what rpgHQ posted. View it in the context of a counterattack to his points - just as valid, just as vacuous.

Sorry I didn't read the previous post. You were still being ruder than he was IMHO, but at least I see the context now.

For the record, rpgHQ was being pretty silly. everyone I know who buys dungeon is a DM.

 

[Arnwyn]

Maybe I'm just tired and slightly angry, but I just can't stand this any more. I am not singling out mr. Chef here. Anyone who doesn't like Dungeon/Polyhedron doesn't have to buy it, period. And if you don't buy it, you have no business complaining about it, either.

Nice try, bud. The same could be said that if you "can't stand this anymore" and whine about the whining... well, you don't have to read the thread either, y'know.

I dont get why folks want premade adventures

Then you need to get out more.

*cough*time/job/life*cough*

 

[kaiscomet]

i liked Dungeon upto about issue 80.

Need to agree with Diaglo here. I have really been disappointed with the adventures in Dungeon for the past few years. Since 3E came out and everyone could become a publisher, it seems that the quality of adventures in Dungeon have taken a serious hit. I stopped subscribing almost two years ago, but have bought a couple off the shelf to see if it was any better. They weren't.

Perhaps the poll should include the option of "I don't even mess around with Dungeon anymore because the quality of the adventure stink; and I'm indifferent to POLY."

IMO, the bigger issue is more related to the quality of the magazine as opposed to the merge between them.