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<blockquote data-quote="phoamslinger" data-source="post: 4088880" data-attributes="member: 2342">I'm probably going to fall into somewhere between B and C myself.&nbsp; I'm going to buy the books and read through them.&nbsp; then I'll head off to the local gaming cons and (with my gaming group) jump into the Living Forgotten Realms campaign that's being worked up, more for the core modules than the local attempts.from what I've seen so far, most of my group are not impressed, but we'll give the system a fair shake.&nbsp; then we'll probably stick with variations on 3.5 until 5.0 comes out.&nbsp; 4e is giving me the impression of a system where I set up a RBDM situation that the players slide out of not because of gifted roleplaying skill, but from some munchkin twink ability that I overlooked, leading to the players&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; and the DM&nbsp; :\&nbsp; or&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" /> .&nbsp; enough of those&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" />&nbsp; moments and I'll kill their minis with a ballpeen hammer and say the hell with even trying to DM anymore.&nbsp; and no, I'm not interested in learning to counter twinks with more twinks of my own, that would just increase the overall irritation of &quot;playing&quot;.&nbsp; it will be better to pitch the system entirely.that's just the impression I'm getting so far.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="phoamslinger, post: 4088880, member: 2342"] I'm probably going to fall into somewhere between B and C myself. I'm going to buy the books and read through them. then I'll head off to the local gaming cons and (with my gaming group) jump into the Living Forgotten Realms campaign that's being worked up, more for the core modules than the local attempts. from what I've seen so far, most of my group are not impressed, but we'll give the system a fair shake. then we'll probably stick with variations on 3.5 until 5.0 comes out. 4e is giving me the impression of a system where I set up a RBDM situation that the players slide out of not because of gifted roleplaying skill, but from some munchkin twink ability that I overlooked, leading to the players :D :D :D and the DM :\ or :] . enough of those :] moments and I'll kill their minis with a ballpeen hammer and say the hell with even trying to DM anymore. and no, I'm not interested in learning to counter twinks with more twinks of my own, that would just increase the overall irritation of "playing". it will be better to pitch the system entirely. that's just the impression I'm getting so far. [/QUOTE]

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