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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4002982" data-attributes="member: 326">Thanks for that snippet SPECTRE666! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But it raises more questions than it answers.- If the demons are more elemental and monstrous, while the devils are more humanoid than previously, why even retain the Ice Devil, mention it was a Daemon (though that admission could have been metagaming), rather than making it a demon.Demons:Balor - fireMarilith - water?Nalfeshnee - airGlabrezu - earthHezrou - waterVrock - airSuccubus - now a devilBabau - ooze (para)Dretch - minionDevils:Barbed - sin = wrathBone - sin = ?Succubus - sin = lustBearded - sin = wrathHorned - hasn't the horned/malebranche changed to a sort of medium sized soldier devil? (I seem to recall some 4E preview art of it).Ice - elemental and monstrous, demonic.Lemure - sin = sloth?Pit Fiend - close to the Balor, may be removed?Daemons: Arcanaloth - diabolical - sin = ?Charonoloth - diabolical - sin = avariceDergoloth - demonic (earth)...too close to the Glabrezu?Hydroloth - demonic (water)...too close to the Hezrou?Nycadaemon - demonic (?)...too close to the Balor? (Or Molydeus?)Piscoloth - demonic (water)Ultroloth - diabolical - sin = pride?Yagnoloth - demonic (?)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4002982, member: 326"] Thanks for that snippet SPECTRE666! :) But it raises more questions than it answers. - If the demons are more elemental and monstrous, while the devils are more humanoid than previously, why even retain the Ice Devil, mention it was a Daemon (though that admission could have been metagaming), rather than making it a demon. [B]Demons:[/B] Balor - fire Marilith - water? Nalfeshnee - air Glabrezu - earth Hezrou - water Vrock - air Succubus - now a devil Babau - ooze (para) Dretch - minion [B]Devils:[/B] Barbed - sin = wrath Bone - sin = ? Succubus - sin = lust Bearded - sin = wrath Horned - hasn't the horned/malebranche changed to a sort of medium sized soldier devil? (I seem to recall some 4E preview art of it). Ice - elemental and monstrous, demonic. Lemure - sin = sloth? Pit Fiend - close to the Balor, may be removed? [B]Daemons: [/B] Arcanaloth - diabolical - sin = ? Charonoloth - diabolical - sin = avarice Dergoloth - demonic (earth)...too close to the Glabrezu? Hydroloth - demonic (water)...too close to the Hezrou? Nycadaemon - demonic (?)...too close to the Balor? (Or Molydeus?) Piscoloth - demonic (water) Ultroloth - diabolical - sin = pride? Yagnoloth - demonic (?) [/QUOTE]

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