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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4003070" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Well in certain occult classifications (Psellus) <strong>Demons</strong> are given six classifications: Aerial, Terrestrial (Subterranean), Terrestrial (Sylvan), Aqueous, Igneus and Heliophobe (basically Night Demon). Interestingly, 4E described the Shadow and Feywild planes as where they put all the dark and all the shiny stuff respectively.</p><p></p><p>Therefore we could hypothesize:</p><p></p><p>Aerial - Vrock - Pazuzu - Air</p><p>Aqueus - Hezrou - Demogorgon - Water</p><p>Terrestrial (Subterranean) - Glabrezu - Zuggtmoy - Earth</p><p>Terrestrial (Sylvan) - Marilith (though I might have initially said Succubus) - Graz'zt - Feywild</p><p>Igneus - Balor - Kardum - Fire</p><p>Heliophobe - Nalfeshnee (or Nabassu) - Orcus - Shadow Plane</p><p></p><p>Now is that a perfect fit or what. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm thinking there would be minor (Heroic Tier), major (Paragon Tier) and True (Epic Tier) Demons. So you might have: Skullvym (Minor), Wastrilith (Major), Myrmixicus (True) Water Demons or Zovvut (Minor), Nabassu (Major), Nalfeshnee (True) Night Demons.</p><p></p><p>Of course you could always look to represent Para-Elemental (Juiblex for Ooze etc.) and Quasi-Elemental planes in a similar fashion.</p><p></p><p>The <strong>Obyrith </strong> could be some sort of Far Realm-Demon Crossbreed. Whilst the <strong>Yugoloths </strong> could be some sort of Shadow Plane-Demon Crossbreed (Their negative plane links is what makes them disease ridden?). <strong>Half-demons</strong> would be the Prime Crossbreed, but I am not sure where the <strong>Loumara </strong> would fit in that but probably as some sort of Astral crossbreed, with the <strong>Fomorians </strong> already ruling the FeyWild as the Fey-Demon crossbreed.</p><p></p><p>As regards <strong>Devils</strong>, in occult lore the terms demon and devil are often interchangeable. However, those named beings in D&D known as Archdevils are sometimes linked with the seven sins.</p><p></p><p>Lucifer - Pride (Unlikely that WotC will include Lucifer in D&D of course)</p><p>Mammon - Avarice</p><p>Asmodeus - Lust</p><p>Satan - Anger (Again, unlikely Satan will be mentioned in D&D)</p><p>Beelzebub - Gluttony</p><p>Leviathan - Envy</p><p>Belphegor - Sloth</p><p></p><p>To bring that more into line with D&D you could have:</p><p></p><p>Asmodeus - Pride</p><p>Mephisto - Envy</p><p>Beelzebul - Gluttony?</p><p>Geryon - Wrath</p><p>Belial - Lust</p><p>Mammon - Avarice</p><p>Dispater - Sloth?</p><p></p><p>Again I think its a small step to transpose the sins onto stock devils again with the three tiered approach: Least Devil (Heroic), Lesser Devil (Paragon) and Greater Devil (Epic).</p><p></p><p>Perhaps: Succubus (Least), Erinyes (Lesser) and Paeliriyon (Greater) as Devils of Lust, or Bearded (Least), Malebranche (Lesser) and Pit Fiend (Greater) as Devils of Wrath.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4003070, member: 326"] Well in certain occult classifications (Psellus) [B]Demons[/B] are given six classifications: Aerial, Terrestrial (Subterranean), Terrestrial (Sylvan), Aqueous, Igneus and Heliophobe (basically Night Demon). Interestingly, 4E described the Shadow and Feywild planes as where they put all the dark and all the shiny stuff respectively. Therefore we could hypothesize: Aerial - Vrock - Pazuzu - Air Aqueus - Hezrou - Demogorgon - Water Terrestrial (Subterranean) - Glabrezu - Zuggtmoy - Earth Terrestrial (Sylvan) - Marilith (though I might have initially said Succubus) - Graz'zt - Feywild Igneus - Balor - Kardum - Fire Heliophobe - Nalfeshnee (or Nabassu) - Orcus - Shadow Plane Now is that a perfect fit or what. ;) I'm thinking there would be minor (Heroic Tier), major (Paragon Tier) and True (Epic Tier) Demons. So you might have: Skullvym (Minor), Wastrilith (Major), Myrmixicus (True) Water Demons or Zovvut (Minor), Nabassu (Major), Nalfeshnee (True) Night Demons. Of course you could always look to represent Para-Elemental (Juiblex for Ooze etc.) and Quasi-Elemental planes in a similar fashion. The [B]Obyrith [/B] could be some sort of Far Realm-Demon Crossbreed. Whilst the [B]Yugoloths [/B] could be some sort of Shadow Plane-Demon Crossbreed (Their negative plane links is what makes them disease ridden?). [B]Half-demons[/B] would be the Prime Crossbreed, but I am not sure where the [B]Loumara [/B] would fit in that but probably as some sort of Astral crossbreed, with the [B]Fomorians [/B] already ruling the FeyWild as the Fey-Demon crossbreed. As regards [B]Devils[/B], in occult lore the terms demon and devil are often interchangeable. However, those named beings in D&D known as Archdevils are sometimes linked with the seven sins. Lucifer - Pride (Unlikely that WotC will include Lucifer in D&D of course) Mammon - Avarice Asmodeus - Lust Satan - Anger (Again, unlikely Satan will be mentioned in D&D) Beelzebub - Gluttony Leviathan - Envy Belphegor - Sloth To bring that more into line with D&D you could have: Asmodeus - Pride Mephisto - Envy Beelzebul - Gluttony? Geryon - Wrath Belial - Lust Mammon - Avarice Dispater - Sloth? Again I think its a small step to transpose the sins onto stock devils again with the three tiered approach: Least Devil (Heroic), Lesser Devil (Paragon) and Greater Devil (Epic). Perhaps: Succubus (Least), Erinyes (Lesser) and Paeliriyon (Greater) as Devils of Lust, or Bearded (Least), Malebranche (Lesser) and Pit Fiend (Greater) as Devils of Wrath. [/QUOTE]
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