Zombie Outbreak - where to hide?

[Rabelais]

Having been in the regular army and national guard, I have to say that you put WAAAAAY too much stock in the quality of our military to react quickly and effectively.

Now.. if in fact you need somebody to drink a cup of coffee and smoke some cigarettes, then by all means Captain Greenjeans and the funky bunch are the boys to see. However...

Without effective leadership giving EXPRESSED COMMANDS, our forces will flail around. In order to keep from violating the No politics rule, I will at this point stop discussing effective leadership, or the lack thereof.

The Army is effective at killing people, the army is NOT EFFECTIVE at keeping the peace.

 

[Warren Okuma]

Having been in the regular army and national guard, I have to say that you put WAAAAAY too much stock in the quality of our military to react quickly and effectively.

Now.. if in fact you need somebody to drink a cup of coffee and smoke some cigarettes, then by all means Captain Greenjeans and the funky bunch are the boys to see. However...

Without effective leadership giving EXPRESSED COMMANDS, our forces will flail around. In order to keep from violating the No politics rule, I will at this point stop discussing effective leadership, or the lack thereof.

The Army is effective at killing people, the army is NOT EFFECTIVE at keeping the peace.

Oh. What unit were you with and when?

As you say the army is effective in killing people. Plus zombies I would add. I'm talking about the 2007 US Military BTW.

 

[AnonymousOne]

If I may ... see the thing is that many of us are both zombie movie fans, military fans, and exercisers of our second amendment right. As a result if/when the outbreak occurs we immediately begin killing every shambling, moaning, brain devouring, zombie in sight.

Think about it. People have been exposed to zombies since Romero in the 60s ... people are going to aim for the head.

Yes certain military tactics will be obsolete. But others won't and we can even break out the good toys when we don't have to worry about those pesky international regulations. (Zombies are NOT covered under the Geneva Convention.) Bring on the Napalm! Zombies still have to have a body to move around, if that body gets cooked, then the zombie ain't going anywhere and is easy prey for a baseball bat.

 

[Rabelais]

1st Infantry Division (Mechanized) Circa 1990.

The speed at which live things can be made dead hasn't changed that much in the intervening years...

 

[JDJblatherings]

Actualy the new Kevlar lined suits are almost bite proof.

I work for a defense contractor, one that actually works on armor, I don't recall zombie defense being part of the specs.

Eh, one hour to a week, depending on the base (this is based on activation drills I hear about). As units come online there are fed to the battlefield. Some units are self activating such as Marines.

the troops have to be Federalized, or someone has to realize the country is under attack before that is goign to happen in meaningful fashion.

Most of my marine friends and their families live in Kailua around the military base there.

My navy friend is away from his family 6-12 months a year, others doesn't get seen for a year or so at a time, my current army friends are "over there".

 

[JDJblatherings]

If I may ... see the thing is that many of us are both zombie movie fans, military fans, and exercisers of our second amendment right. As a result if/when the outbreak occurs we immediately begin killing every shambling, moaning, brain devouring, zombie in sight.

People have to realize they are zombies and not ebola vicitms, or brain damaged from being legally dead for an hour before they "revived", or drugged out of their minds . If their first introduction to a zombie is immediate and horrible violence well , most people do not react to violence with a "fight " reaction but instead have a "flight" reaction or they go limp and helpless...that's why muggers are effective they are ready and don't hesitate.

It is not going to cross most peoples minds that grandma is a zombie. Most folks don't commit every element of every movie they ever saw to memory and don't live and breath on faux-monster hunting.

There is likely going to be serious psychological reaction once people come to grips with the notion these are in fact people back from the dead. People back from the dead that want to kill you. The notion that they are stupid predators isn't going to be in peoples heads, they will see people trying to kill them, people that can suffer wounds that would kill most of us, people that have "been to the other side".

I'm not saying it'd be the end of the human race but civiliztion would change, the trauma the species would endure would be one of the biggest in all of recorded history.

 

[awayfarer]

MY zombie outbreak?

I'm heading to a miniature golf course with batting cages and the like. My outbreak is going to be a comedy. Anyone else think that seeing a zombie beheaded by the windmill would just be awesome?

 

[Tetsubo]

Only problem being you're not going to hit jack beyond 50-70 yards with a .22LR

Maybe a .22 Hornet ...

Still I'd rather have a rifle, more accurate, mount a scope or reflex sight, and go to town.

Most urban combat takes place within around 30'... and I can hit a human head sized object at 50 yards without issue...

 

[Tetsubo]

Doesn't wash in a psychological context, unless you're a sociopath of some sort.



A .22 long rifle won't penetrate a human skull, and I speak from talking to the Denver ME. If you shot at point-blank range, eye, roof of mouth or foramen magnum, maybe you might get inside, but at the average 25 foot range of a gunfight, no. I've been popped with a .22 LR in the leg and it barely penetrated a good pair of denim jeans at the kind of range you're going to want to engage at.

As for a Calico...exotic weaponry is in short supply as is, how're you going to get it from every other crazed, desperate person wanting a gun, any gun, during the Rise? Shoot them? Stab? Club 'em with a rock? Congratulations, you just created another recently-dead corpse...thus, a zombie.

I disagree with that. I've had people close to be violent. You would be surprised how quickly you adapt to that...

I own several firearms. Not to mention swords, spears, axes, hammers, knives and clubs. And if I club someone, I'm not stopping until I see brains...

The Calico M-100 would just be my weapon of choice...

 

[Olaf the Stout]

I'm heading to a miniature golf course with batting cages and the like. My outbreak is going to be a comedy. Anyone else think that seeing a zombie beheaded by the windmill would just be awesome?

I like the way you think!

Olaf the Stout