D&D 5E A Proper Ability Score Generation Preference Poll

Oofta said:

*EDIT: just to be clear that's "rogue" not "Rogue". This is going to be a strength based fighter with 16, 10, 15, 10, 8, 16. Strong and charming but not particularly wise (leaps before he looks type).

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Hussar said:

Why not? If he started as rogue, he'd be no problem. There's no minimums for your base class.

And no, [MENTION=6789021]Yardiff[/MENTION], that's not pulling out my "against type" character. I POSTED my entire group for perusal and apparently that's not a good enough test. When I talked about my ranger, the guesses netted one out of three of the posited stats. ((Oh, no one cares about the other three, so, there goes the whole "I can guess your stats thing".))

I mean, is a hunter ranger with sharpshooter actually playing against type? Seriously? I dump statted Con, both for the in game reason that the character was quite young and the out of game meta-thinking that my archer character isn't going to get hit much anyway, why bother with Con?

Then I got told that Alertness was a totally out of place feat. Umm, what? Largely guaranteed advantage on 2-3 attacks in the first round of combat with Sharpshooter? That's out of place? Plus cannot be surprised? Dunno about your games, but, that's come up more than once in mine.

But, hey, the goalposts are on roller skates anyway, so, this conversation is largely pointless. The claim was, "I can ALWAYS guess the point buy value character's stats". Now it's "Well, I can guess the top three stats, if the character is created the sole way that I would optimize that character". I mean, FFS, I GAVE the arrays for five characters and no one is apparently able to match the stats to the classes. That's a heck of a lot easier than trying to actually guess the stats. And, because it's posted, there's no way anyone could be cheating.

But, then, if you can't cheat, then you can't whine about people lying and cheating when they smack you down for making ridiculous claims that you can't back up. Must be nice to be in a position where you ensure that you "win" on the Internet instead of actually discussing with any intellectual honesty.

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Caliban said:

Um, I'm afraid there are - if you want to multi-class. You have to meet the minimum stats for both the class you start in, and the class you are switching too.

It's easy to miss, but the rule is there.

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Yardiff said:

A ranger with dumped con is against type for most people, just because you don't consider it against type doesn't make it not against type.

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Yardiff said:

Its not that easy to miss if you read the multi-classing section.

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Yardiff said:

I get that Oofta but just because some people, like you, play more for character reasons you should at least admit that ALOT of characters are built to be the best for their class. A lot of people want to be good at their class abilities and using standard array that, for the most part, limits stat placement. In my opinion this is why people (maybe a lot of people) say the standard array, and to some extend point buy, can look pretty cookie cutter.

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Yardiff said:

PCs are supposed to a lot better then average stat wise then non-PC characters so telling people they have to play character with overall subpar stats is being a bad GM.

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Caliban said:

You seem pretty sure you know what "most people" prefer and do when it comes to characters.

What are you basing this on?

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Caliban said:

Are you being a jerk just because you can't help it, or is there a purpose to this?

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Yardiff said:

No I'm correcting what you said about its being easy to miss. The Prerequisites section on pg 163 of the PHB, it takes up the upper right quarter of the page after all.

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