Actually... I don't feel this has been a pointless argument or thread at all. And I HAVE been attempting to understand all of your points of view all along, which is why I keep asking questions of all of you. In fact... I've re-thought a position of mine during the course of this thread that I hadn't really had before... so for my money, this thread has been a success because my mind has been changed in a minor way. Not my major points... I still feel those are valid... but a minor point where I said to myself "Okay, I see where they're coming from, that actually makes more sense."
But if you're getting pissy because we're having the conversation, then as I said to Nagol... just don't have the conversation. You don't have to address my posts. In fact, you can put my on Ignore and not even see them if it bothers you that much. Doesn't matter to me in the least. But as I said above... since I've been talking to folks in this thread longer than you have... you don't get to decide whether I'm allowed in.