Is anybody else seeing C&C here?

[Tehnai]

I was reading over the Skill and Ability Score Seminar and most of the mechanical aspects of reworked skills and abilities screamed Castles & Crusades to me.

To those not familiar with the retro-clone, all saves are based on abilities, that are either Primed (things that you are good at) or not. This changes the DC of a given roll. If something is a class feature (say, sneaking for a thief), you get a bonus to it equal to your level.

It doesn't seem like it's exactly the same, of course (DCs probably won't be tied to a character, skills probably won't be locked into classes quite as much), but it still seems to me that someone read C&C and went "Well, that's a jolly good idea."

I'm pleased with this, personally. I think C&C has a lot of good things going for it, and the skill/attribute system is one of them, in my humble opinion.

 

[M.L. Martin]

I've been seeing C&C echoes in it for a few weeks, actually, once the announcement was made and it became more obvious that last year's L&L columns were brainstorming for it. The possibility of a C&C-style baseline with more options and access to all of WotC's IP and resources sounds very good to me, especially if it takes a few steps closer to 2E and/or 4E than C&C (which I like a lot about, but hews a bit too closely to Gygaxian 1E for my tastes).

 

[avin]

There was some leak from one of playtesters suggesting that (yesterday).

It makes sense, the core of the game must be very very light.

 

[Ahnehnois]

I don't play C&C, but there are some similarities to what I've read about it.

They did say they were looking at all editions of D&D; hopefully they're looking at its spinoffs as well.

 

[Remathilis]

I don't play C&C, but there are some similarities to what I've read about it.

They did say they were looking at all editions of D&D; hopefully they're looking at its spinoffs as well.

Mearls spent time talking to the OSRIC guy according to the rumormill, and Monte did work on Pathfinder...

 

[MichaelSomething]

I'm surprised no one mentioned this earlier!

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Both the idea and what we've seen of the implementation scream 4E crossed with C&C to me.

 

[Votan]

Both the idea and what we've seen of the implementation scream 4E crossed with C&C to me.

This is a good thing; Castles and Crusades was a really cool system and it would be nice if it influenced the next edition of Dungeons and Dragons.

 

[TerraDave]

C&C, plus Essentials, with a light dash of GURPS.

 

[SeRiAlExPeRiMeNtS]

To me if fells a little like the dragon age RPG.