She-Hulk: Attorney at Law trailer

[Zaukrie]

Not everything has to be a trilogy of novels.

There was a time when the short story was the monarch of the sci-fi/fantasy genre. The shift away from that has more to do with marketing and the economics of publishing than whether novels or short stories are "better". If Marvel wants to give us a bunch of short stories, I'm good with that. It fits the comics genre pretty well.

Imagine how we'd all feel about Heroes, had it ended after one season....rather than what they gave us later!

That said, I'd have liked a different ending of WandaVision if that's all we got.....at least She Hulk had something of an ending.

 

[Umbran]

That said, I'd have liked a different ending of WandaVision if that's all we got.....at least She Hulk had something of an ending.

I thought WandaVision ended fine. If Ms. Marvel weren't headed for the movies, that ending was sub-par.

 

[Zaukrie]

I thought WandaVision ended fine. If Ms. Marvel weren't headed for the movies, that ending was sub-par.

Haven't watched that yet. So many shows....

 

[MarkB]

I feel like Disney really need to take some time to reconsolidate their brand with Marvel. Everything since Endgame has just felt so... unfocused. There's too little of that sense of a larger continuity that ran through the Avengers era, instead it all feels like various unrelated people off doing unrelated stuff, with some occasional wisps of interconnection.

 

[Ryujin]

I feel like Disney really need to take some time to reconsolidate their brand with Marvel. Everything since Endgame has just felt so... unfocused. There's too little of that sense of a larger continuity that ran through the Avengers era, instead it all feels like various unrelated people off doing unrelated stuff, with some occasional wisps of interconnection.

I don't know... The earlier MCU stuff wasn't connected, until it was. We've got a huge number of new chaarcters, with old ones cycling out, so they need to be introduced before they're put into major use.

 

[Staffan]

I don't know... The earlier MCU stuff wasn't connected, until it was. We've got a huge number of new chaarcters, with old ones cycling out, so they need to be introduced before they're put into major use.

The MCU stuff was connected from the start. Iron Man ended with Nick Fury showing up at Stark's place saying he'd like to talk about the Avengers Initiative. The Hulk had a mix of an attempted recreation of the super-soldier serum with gamma rays creating the Abomination. Hawkeye had a cameo in Thor.

It took a while before one could see the shape of it, but it was definitely planned out from the start.

 

[Ryujin]

The MCU stuff was connected from the start. Iron Man ended with Nick Fury showing up at Stark's place saying he'd like to talk about the Avengers Initiative. The Hulk had a mix of an attempted recreation of the super-soldier serum with gamma rays creating the Abomination. Hawkeye had a cameo in Thor.

It took a while before one could see the shape of it, but it was definitely planned out from the start.

Echo appears in "Hawkeye", Captain Marvel appears in "Ms. Marvel, " Daredevil appears in "She-Hulk." just to name a few.

 

[MarkB]

Echo appears in "Hawkeye", Captain Marvel appears in "Ms. Marvel, " Daredevil appears in "She-Hulk." just to name a few.

Yeah, but they're mostly just there. In the early Marvel movies we knew basically from the start that they were building towards the Avengers. There isn't that sense of threads drawing together in the recent movies and shows.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Phase four is just as connected as Phase One was. Maybe people are just expecting more connection than they should because of Phases Two and Three. Also, all the Covid delays have really thrown off the pacing for Phase Four. Things are not being released in filming order, for one thing.

 

[pukunui]

With the possible exception of Loki, pretty much all of the D+ shows have been character origin stories. Even WandaVision was the "origin story" for her (brief) iteration as the Scarlet Witch. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was the origin story for both the new Captain America and John Walker / US Agent. Hawkeye was both an origin story for Kate Bishop and a passing-of-the-torch story, as well as a sort of intro for Echo. And so on.

I agree that Phase 4 has felt messy. Let's hope that Phase 5 starts to tighten things up. One of the first things we're getting is Ant-Man 3, which will introduce Kang ... whom we've all been waiting for since Loki.