Dragonlance WotC Officially Confirms Takhisis and Tiamat Are The Same

It's been an issue in dispute for decades, over various editions of D&D, but WotC has officially confirmed that - at least in 5E - Dragonlance's Takhisis is, indeed, currently Tiamat. In previous editions, Tiamat has varied from being a big dragon to a minor goddess, while Takhisis has been a greater god on Krynn. At times they've been the same entity, and at others different entities. Today, WotC is putting its foot down and saying that Takhisis and Tiamat are, indeed, the same being.



Of course, this is not an opinion universally held. Dragonlance co-creator Margaret Weis emphatically stated that "TAKHISIS IS NOT TIAMAT, DAMN IT!"

Fizban's Treasuryof Dragons confirms that the beings echo across various settings.

D&D 5E - Is Paladine Bahamut? Is Takhisis Tiamat? Fizban's Treasury Might Reveal The Answer!

According to WotC's James Wyatt, Fizban's Treasury of Dragons introduces a new cosmology for dragon gods, where the same beings, including Fizban, echo across various D&D campaign settings with alternate versions of themselves (presumably like Paladine/Bahamut, or Takhisis/Tiamat). Also... the...

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[Vaalingrade]

I always considered Takahisis to be Tiamat's sock puppet account for Krynn.

If the same goes for Bahamut, Kyrnn might just be a family therapy roleplaying session that went too far.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Out of curiosity, what is that explanation?

the thread is locked so rather then answer I will show you that thread, Dragonlance - Dragonlance Creators Reveal Why There Are No Orcs On Krynn that way it doesn't open comment's and another argument

 

[Vaalingrade]

Out of curiosity, what is that explanation?

They didn't want to rip off lord of the rings.

So they made halflings who were actual thieves instead of being mistaken for burglars. and a half-elf that was sad about being leader instead of an awesome leader. And the leader of all the disparate peoples formed into a 'dark army' was a dragon woman instead of a big, burning eye.

 

[Stormonu]

In my head, they are separate, for the reasons people have already mentioned: The differences in power/significance and the fact that the death of one does not seem to affect the other. It is fairly unlikely that it will ever matter in a campaign I run, but in the event that it does they will be separate there also.

ETA:
Out of curiosity, what is that explanation?

They didn't want to use them, they're cliche.

 

[DarkCrisis]

So in WotC lore, what happened to Bahamut and Tiamat in say Faerun when Raistlin killed them on Krynn?

When the Time of Troubles happened in Faerun did Paladine and Takhisis lose power to? Only if they were on Faerun? Why not planeshift over to Krynn and get your power back?

I know it doesnt matter because the only lore that matters is the 5 pages in the mostly adventure book.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I find it hilarious that Tiamat is both more famous and less developed than Takhisis.

 

[dave2008]

Yes. Sorry I knew she is a goddess in DiA but it was calling her a demon lord that was confusing because she is connected to the Baator.

I don't know why @Reynard said DiA claimed she was a Demon Lord, but that is who started that thought. I've looked through DiA and I can only find references to her divinity and relationship to Avernus and devils. No connection with demons as far as I can see (other than as a possible adversary to demons).

 

[Bedrockgames]

I always considered Takahisis to be Tiamat's sock puppet account for Krynn.

How do we know you aren't just one of Paladine's other accounts ?

 

[Veltharis ap Rylix]

I find it hilarious that Tiamat is both more famous and less developed than Takhisis.

If you consider them to be the same, then Tiamat's just as developed as Takhisis - in fact, moreso.

 

[dave2008]

So in WotC lore, what happened to Bahamut and Tiamat in say Faerun when Raistlin killed them on Krynn?

When the Time of Troubles happened in Faerun did Paladine and Takhisis lose power to? Only if they were on Faerun? Why not planeshift over to Krynn and get your power back?

I know it doesnt matter because the only lore that matters is the 5 pages in the mostly adventure book.

It is different for different editions. At one time there was a notion that deities had different aspects and powers/strength based on their worship within a particular world / crystal sphere. Under this model, FR Tiamat and Krynn Takhisis are different aspects of the same divinity/Power. So killing one, only affects the aspect of that world/CS.

Also, under this model, the total power of a god was the sum total of all aspects across all worlds. That is a reason gods try to be a part of many different pantheons / worlds.