best archer build


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Numion

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krunchyfrogg said:
Some recommend making the character a Wood Elf (with ranger as his favored class) and going Ranger 1/ Cleric X.

This takes away from precious spellcasting, but gives access to better skills (max out spot/listen), and access to Hunter's Mercy Wands (very useful).

It's your call.

What book is Hunter's Mercy in, and what it does?
 

Numion

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Nice icing on the clerical archer cake is Miracle. Casting paladins Holy Sword - spell via Miracle makes for some nice smack.
 

Elder-Basilisk

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Nope; you'd need four levels of a 1/1 BAB class to make a difference in the number of attacks a cleric gets at level 20. That's because the cleric loses his 5th point of BAB (vis a vis a 1/1 progression) at level 17 so if you take Cleric 17, you've lost the possibility of having 4 attacks/round due to BAB. (Of course cleric 17 also gives 9th level spells so it's well worth it).

Darklone said:
I think that one level of ranger gives you one attack more at lvl20... that's why.
 

Gumby

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Elder-Basilisk said:
Nope; you'd need four levels of a 1/1 BAB class to make a difference in the number of attacks a cleric gets at level 20. That's because the cleric loses his 5th point of BAB (vis a vis a 1/1 progression) at level 17 so if you take Cleric 17, you've lost the possibility of having 4 attacks/round due to BAB. (Of course cleric 17 also gives 9th level spells so it's well worth it).

Divine Power. Persistent, of course. (Sigh.)
 

Cleric Archer

Only problem I see with the Cleric Archer and all that munchy goodness is you have to be 15th level to have a Persistent Divine Power.. If your play style tends to the lower end, like 3rd - 10th level characters, the Cleric Archer doesn't ramp up the same as the melee/prestige class ones.

My current character I have going is :

Ranger1/Cleric5 Wood Elf of Solonor Theldira, using the OG altranger :)
(which simply has 4 different routes the ranger can go with his/her virtual feats: TWF, Bow, Saves/HP, or Running/Endurance)

Point Blank Shot, Weapon Focus(Longbow) (Domains), Rapid Shot, Precise Shot (Virtua Ranger feats) Improved Rapid Shot (Dragon 275), Extend Spell, and Far Shot.
Stats are (using a heroic point buy)
Str 20
Con 12
Dex 21 (one level increase)
Int 8
Wis 14
Cha 8
With a Dex of 21 + 2-5 Cat's Grace and a Darkwood Masterwork Mighty Composite Long Bow (+5) (HR: Darkwood allows for a couple more pluses w/out going Gargantuan :) )

That adds up to :
+4 (BAB) +1 (WF) +1 (PBShot) + 7 (Avg Buffed Dex) +1 MW Bow = + 14 Att Bonus with 1d8 +6 dmg on 2 arrows

So level 6 is : +14/+14 1d8+6 for an avg damage against 20 AC (assuming both hit) of 20 points of damage for the round.

Not too impressive for a 6th level character, considering a tricked out Half Orc Barbarian/Fighter with the same base stats modified for race

STR 21(24 Raged)
CON 16(20 Raged)
DEX 18
INT 8
WIS 8
CHA 8

Wielding a MW Spiked Chain with WF, WSpec, Power Attack, Cleave, Improved Trip, Knockdown, and Combat Reflexes. He could concievably get 5 AoO's a round, doing an avg of 17 points per AoO - 2d4 + 13 [+10 STR(Raging) +2 WSpec +1 MW] and be able to cleave on any/all enemies within a 10ft reach, and still get 2 attacks on his turn at +15/+10 AND be able to then cleave on any enemies that happen to be left in that melee tornado of death. And the half orc doesn't need to buff.. ever.
 

Elder-Basilisk

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If you're going to do that, you could multiclass contemplative (1/2 BAB) and still get four attacks per round (plus rapid shot and multishot if your DM is foolish enough to allow the latter feat).

Gumby said:

Divine Power. Persistent, of course. (Sigh.)
 


Numion

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Storminator said:
Do any of these cleric archers work if you AREN'T an elf?

PS

It might, but usually good archer builds depend on the Elf domain from FRCS, and I don't see a way for a non-elves to get it. Non-elf will also have to get the war domain, because they won't be proficient with bows without it. (IMO war domain is good for elves too, but not necessary since they might want time domain instead.)
 

Storminator

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Numion said:


It might, but usually good archer builds depend on the Elf domain from FRCS, and I don't see a way for a non-elves to get it. Non-elf will also have to get the war domain, because they won't be proficient with bows without it. (IMO war domain is good for elves too, but not necessary since they might want time domain instead.)

You could blow feats on the proficiency, but that suddenly makes the whole idea less efficient. If you're a human, you could spend your 2 feats on Martial Prof and PBS, delaying the others in turn. That's fairly inefficient.

You could also go Ftr 1/Clr X, giving you prof in bows and another pair of feats to devote to the cause. Your spells are slower, but its still workable.

Just wondering if anyone had done a build without elfyness

PS
 

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