Vaalingrade
Legend
That's not something I'd thought of; probably since while I know school sanctioned D&D clubs are a thing, I wasn't actively considering them.
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D&D (2024) Firearms to be made a fixed part of the game, new Weapons Rules
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Dreamscape
Crafter of fine role-playing games
Are they planning matchlock, wheellock, flintlock, or some new fantasy mechanism?
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
First thought when reading the title of the thread:
Whew, finally. You have my attention, sir!
Upon closer examination:
Um, nevermind. I stopped reading at "...damage even on a miss."
Do not want. Ever.
Whew, finally. You have my attention, sir!
Upon closer examination:
Um, nevermind. I stopped reading at "...damage even on a miss."
Do not want. Ever.
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Kobold Avenger
Legend
It's the same ones as the ones in the DMG under "Renaissance Firearms", that's really unspecific about the firing mechanism. They're probably Matchlocks or Wheellocks.
But the PHB is really unspecific about the mechanisms on their crossbows too.
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
I know that this is probably just a first-pass at some firearms rules for the next iteration of D&D, but from what I'm seeing, I'm probably going to give it a pass. The Seas of Vodari, published by Tribality Games, is my go-to for firearms and firearms-themed classes. If you're interested in running a swashbuckling, seafaring style D&D game, I highly recommend it.
They've got your Arcane Gunslingers...
...your swashbuckling pistoleer rogues...
...your dwarven cannoneers...
...your dueling Musketteer-flavored fighters...
...and more firepower than you can shake a d20 at.
I had to house-rule a few things for my table (mostly the reload speed...being able to reload a flintlock in 6 seconds is absurd) but that's about it. My players are really digging it, and I hope that Wizards of the Coast stays as close to it as possible.
They've got your Arcane Gunslingers...
...your swashbuckling pistoleer rogues...
...your dwarven cannoneers...
...your dueling Musketteer-flavored fighters...
...and more firepower than you can shake a d20 at.
I had to house-rule a few things for my table (mostly the reload speed...being able to reload a flintlock in 6 seconds is absurd) but that's about it. My players are really digging it, and I hope that Wizards of the Coast stays as close to it as possible.
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Charlaquin
Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
Being able to reload a heavy crossbow in 6 seconds is equally absurd though, so
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
Oh I agree, it's absurd. But EQUALLY absurd, I'm not so sure.Being able to reload a heavy crossbow in 6 seconds is equally absurd though, so
Charlaquin
Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
A windlass crossbow would take just as long to reload as a musket, if not longer.
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
Yep, I agree. If Heavy Crossbow = Windlass Crossbow, that is a ridiculous reload time. But the "heavy crossbow" as it's described in the Player's Handbook could be any crossbow that takes 2 hands to aim and fire...I don't think a windlass mechanism is described. Flintlocks, however, are explicitly mentioned.
But your point stands: the reload speed of crossbows in D&D is incredibly, unbelievably fast. The only part I'm disagreeing with is the part where you suggest these firearm reload speeds are equally unbelievable.
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Mirrorrorrim
Hero
Umm, categorically incorrect? Never? Because different writers and designers have different ideas an interests, "canon" is littered with inconsistencies. Off the top of my head.
1. Greyhawk is part of the greater multiverse, being in Greyspace which was described in Spelljammer. And Greyspace had giff in the Grinder belt. Giff are hippofolk known most for their guns.
2. Greyhawk has the Barrier Peaks, which had a spaceship crash which had laser guns.
3. Murlynd's guns were guns, even if they only worked because of his magic aura. I would assert that calling them "wands" is a colloquialism that arose from there not being a word for "guns" and wands were the closest thing to what others understood.
I did a simple internet search and found some articles about guns in Greyhawk:
Blackpowder Weapons in Greyhawk
A gaming blog about the World of Greyhawk fantasy setting for all editions of Dungeons & Dragons formerly owned by TSR now by Wizards of the Coast.
greyhawkery.blogspot.com
Blackpowder Weapons in Greyhawk Part 2
A gaming blog about the World of Greyhawk fantasy setting for all editions of Dungeons & Dragons formerly owned by TSR now by Wizards of the Coast.
greyhawkery.blogspot.com
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