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how to hit on girls without being creepy?

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Crothian

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DeadlyUematsu said:
Anyway, a lot of the advice given here is outdated, won't work, and is embarrassingly half-hearted.

You do realize how entirely unhelpful that comment is? There are a few pages of advice, and your saying that most is not worth it, but you aren't willing to point out what is good and what is bad.

The fact is the advice is all good, just not for everyone. With billions of people in the world there is no single advice that applies to all, and proablty no single bit of advice that applies to none of them.
 

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Crothian

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Teflon Billy said:
Hida, this isn't a dig, it's an honest question.

Do you have Asperger's Syndrome?

You might want to get checked.

I had to google that one. Never heard of it, but it is interesting.
 

Teflon Billy

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Crothian said:
I had to google that one. Never heard of it, but it is interesting.

Yeah, it isn't super-common, but a guy in my hometown suffered from it--and was a total reject--but with counselling he managed to gecome alot more fucntional.

He was seriously wierd to be around. Constantly going on trying to "quantify" all manner of things rather than just learning them organically.

I recall him taking a different friend of ours to task because he was dating a girl whom he had "rated" lower than some others (like "she's a 10" type ratings) and he found it just incomprehensible that if you thought someone was a ten, why you would be dating a girl who was seven.

He could neither understand it, nor shut up about it...and it was one of many things like that.

Hida's behaviour in this thread (numbered seconds of eye contact, that "Graph" etc) all rings a little familiar.

I'm no doctor, so certainly don't take my word for it, but I see what I see.
 

tarchon

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Hida Bukkorosu said:
why? cause i was worried she might be underage and that people would think i'm some kind of pervert or something...

but now i feel like i blew a chance to talk to a really cute girl...

is my fear reasonable? is there an accepted way of asking a girl if she's old enough to be flirted with or not?

Being able to pin down an age within a couple years is pretty essential to being a single guy in our culture. Practice. Many women are not offended by age questions, but a few are really offended, so I'd try to avoid it. Generally though, if you think she's under 18, chances are she is. On the other hand, there's no law against a friendly chat either, and, at least in a Taco Bell, you don't want to start in with the actual chatting up until you've got a basic idea who you're talking to and until you can tell whether she's into it. The initial innocent conversation is only a significant faux pas if there happens to be a parent* or boyfriend (or girlfriend) hanging around, and naturally you've done the PB(G) scan before any of this happens. If you're an experienced single guy, you've almost subconsciously been tracking everyone in the vicinity since you arrived in order to determine their relationships to potential dateables.

The rules are different in a pick-up spot like a bar though - you can advance the chatting up considerably if there's a social presumption of receptiveness. On the flip side, certain environments require a higher standard of receptiveness indication, like you don't chat up people who are at work (waitstaff, prostitutes, police officers, judges, etc.) or people in captive situations (airplanes, family reunions, GenCon games, cells, juries etc.) unless they give a big flashing green light that even the dullest nerd would notice.

Generally in the captive situation, if you do dare to go for it, it's best to hold off on any direct chatting up until near the end of the period of captivity so that potential post-brushoff awkwardness is of limited duration. Smarter women usually can tell when it's coming, so they'll typically give you hints about their availability, casually mentioning something like "oh, my boyfriend likes pretzels too." There is a certain element that consciously conceals such information just because they like the flirting game though, and I figure it's OK to proceed with flirting in that case, if only for the practice, but one should be aware that a lack of data isn't a positive or negative.

This being said, the non-pick-up spot cold flirt is a pretty low-percentage way of meeting people, but it is possible to do it without being excessively obnoxious. I've probably ended up with more friends than dates thereby, since random encounters aren't very selective for singleness or basic compatibility.

*This holds also for adults, as even if you're 30, it's really awkward to flirt with someone while your mom is 10 ft away.
 
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tarchon

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Teflon Billy said:
Hida, this isn't a dig, it's an honest question.

Do you have Asperger's Syndrome?

You might want to get checked.

Aspergers is a hot diagnosis right now - if you go in asking if you've got it, the answer is "yes, can I put your case in my new self-help book?" :p
 

The Shaman

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Torm said:
You'll want to be careful when chatting up women where they work that you don't do it in a fashion that causes them work problems...
Then again, you never know:

I met a smokin' hot girl when I worked on the staff at a museum. She was visiting for extra credit for a college class she was taking - I helped her with her homework, and gave her my phone number.

That was over fourteen years ago - we're married and have a beautiful daughter.

As Torm notes, be respectful of the opposite sex in their place of work - most of all remember that they are a "captive audience" as you can leave and they often can't - but if the opportunity a brief conversation comes up, why not? Good things can happen.
 

Crothian said:
You do realize how entirely unhelpful that comment is? There are a few pages of advice, and your saying that most is not worth it, but you aren't willing to point out what is good and what is bad.

No. I found it more helpful to point him exactly where he wants to go AND to suggest an alternative to the desired 'scoring'.

The fact is the advice is all good, just not for everyone. With billions of people in the world there is no single advice that applies to all, and proablty no single bit of advice that applies to none of them.

I still wouldn't recommend most of the advice in this thread. Not because it doesn't work in specific cases, but because it doesn't work in general.
 
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Teflon Billy

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DeadlyUematsu said:
I still wouldn't recommend most of the advice in this thread. Not because it doesn't work in specific cases, but because it doesn't work in general.

I googled it, and I think my advice is very similar to Tom Leykis's.

So what he's saying Hida is go with mine :)
 

Teflon Billy said:
I googled it, and I think my advice is very similar to Tom Leykis's.

So what he's saying Hida is go with mine :)

Yeah. Telfon Billy's advice was the best in the thread.

Although Buttercup's suggestion of using prostitution was a close second.

But I do not endorse spending money. ;)
 
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