Edena_of_Neith
First Post
ANSWERS, COMMENTS, AND RULINGS
I am reposting this below.
And yes, Serpenteye and Draco DO count as two separate Powers, who can launch TWO Attacks and TWO Defenses.
I want you to be afraid of the Union of Oerth.
You should be afraid of the Union of Oerth.
The Union of Oerth have been very carefully, steathily, and ruthlessly building their Power for the last 6 Turns.
This is the payoff for that effort.
Edena
DEALING WITH 11TH LEVEL TROUBLEMAKERS, THE FUN AND EASY WAY
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THE USUAL QUESTIONS
It all starts with the usual questions, but the answers ... ah, there is where the
difference is!
What can you do with 11th level magic quickly?
You can launch a Stage 1 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 1 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic in a few minutes?
You can launch a Stage 2 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 2 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic in an hour?
You can launch a Stage 3 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 3 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic in a day?
You can launch a Stage 4 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 4 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic in a week?
You can launch a Stage 5 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 5 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic using all of Turn 7 to do it?
You can launch a Stage 6 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 6 Defense (see below)
PUTTING THE OTHER POWER IN THE GARBAGE
You all know the trouble is that each Power has several thousand mages who can cast
11th level magic, and several thousand clerics who can cast 11th level magic.
Right?
Get rid of those mages and clerics, and PRESTO: no more problems with 11th level
magic from that Power.
That includes that Power's NPCs.
It does not include that Power's PC, but that PC cannot rebuild his army of lost mages
and clerics - he is a lone 11th level caster against your thousands of 11th level casters.
Guess what happens to him next? (chuckle)
Now, all you need to do is to have your thousands of mages and clerics, launch a
single attack - combining all their power - against the enemy mages and clerics, to get
rid of them.
The longer you take to launch this attack, the more powerful it is - thus the Stages
above.
Each Stage simply means the Attack is more powerful.
DISPOSING OF THE GARBAGE
If your attack succeeds, you can dispose of the enemy mages and clerics in the
garbage, as follows:
You can send them to Ravenloft. They won't be returning to bother anyone, ever
again.
You can send them to the 9th Plane of Hell. Nothing can return (DM's ruling) from
there.
You can send them to the Seventh Heaven. Nothing returns from there either.
You can teleport them all into one of those giant Spheres of Annihilation that is lying
around. They won't be returning from that.
Or, you can declare it a simple, straight, 11th level kill.
The body will live (because of the Mists) but the soul is destroyed, so the enemy
mages and clerics becoming babbling idiots, or mindless automatons, or go into
permanent catatonia, incapable of ever casting magic again, or doing much of
anything else either.
Anyway you put it, it comes up Enemy Neutralized. No more 11th level nonsense out of
him!
(His Power retains 10th level magic, and still exists ... until you use your 11th level
magic to blow his Power to smithereens, capture his PC, and subject his PC to all your
built up displeasure at his doings.)
Now, as I said, the longer you build up the power, the greater the attack, as
represented by the Categories given above.
If an ally helps you in the attack, his Categories stack with yours.
If you are being attacked - if someone and their allies are trying to put YOU in the
garbage can - you can defend yourself.
The longer you build up your defense, the greater the defensive power - thus, the
Category system once more.
Again, a higher Category simply means your defense is stronger.
If allies come and help you, their Categories stack with yours.
EXAMPLE:
So, if Kalanyr waits an hour, building his power up, he would throw a Category 3 attack.
If Alzem, who had taken only a few minutes to build an attack, joined him, the
combined Attack Category would increase to 5.
If Forrester, who built up for an entire Turn, then joined them, the combined Category
would jump to 11.
Mr. Draco and Serpenteye, although they are playing one power, may combine their
Categories - they are counted as two separate Powers for this purpose.
So, let us say both of them are the ones under attack by Kalanyr, above.
Both have spent a whole day preparing, so they each have a Category 4 defense.
The 2 Categories stack, so they have a Category 8 defense.
Thus, it becomes a Category 11 Attack versus a Category 8 Defense.
What will happen? See below! The charts show what might happen!
MISCELLANEOUS
I will be running Turn 7 in terms of DAYS passed - I will announce day 1, then day 2,
etc.
It is appreciated that the IR is a worldwide affair, and it takes people time to post.
Therefore, if someone posts they are making an attack, the defender has 24 hours
IRL to post he is defending himself, and his allies also have 24 hours to post they are
helping.
If someone posts they are making an attack, people have 24 hours to post they are
helping the attack, also.
At the end of that 24 hour period, I will resolve the attack.
THE CHARTS
And just what is the resolution?
Well, it is summarized below:
(Mind you, I the DM always make the percentile rolls below!)
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Attack Category / Defense Category
Effect on Defender
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1 / 0
10% chance 100% destroyed
20% chance 50% destroyed
30% chance 25% destroyed
40% chance 12% destroyed
50% chance 6% destroyed
60% chance 3% destroyed
70% chance 1% destroyed
2 / 0
20% chance 100% destroyed
30% chance 50% destroyed
40% chance 25% destroyed
50% chance 12% destroyed
60% chance 6% destroyed
70% chance 3% destroyed
80% chance 1% destroyed
3 / 0
30% chance 100% destroyed
40% chance 50% destroyed
50% chance 25% destroyed
60% chance 12% destroyed
70% chance 6% destroyed
80% chance 3% destroyed
90% chance 1% destroyed
4 / 0
40% chance 100% destroyed
50% chance 50% destroyed
60% chance 25% destroyed
70% chance 12% destroyed
80% chance 6% destroyed
90% chance 3% destroyed
99% chance 1% destroyed
5 / 0
50% chance 100% destroyed
60% chance 50% destroyed
70% chance 25% destroyed
80% chance 12% destroyed
90% chance 6% destroyed
99% chance 3% destroyed
6 / 0
60% chance 100% destroyed
70% chance 50% destroyed
80% chance 25% destroyed
90% chance 12% destroyed
99% chance 6% destroyed
7 / 0
70% chance 100% destroyed
80% chance 50% destroyed
90% chance 25% destroyed
99% chance 12% destroyed
8 / 0
80% chance 100% destroyed
90% chance 50% destroyed
99% chance 25% destroyed
9 / 0
90% chance 100% destroyed
99% chance 50% destroyed
10 / 0
95% chance 100% destroyed
Otherwise, 50% destroyed
11 / 0
98% chance 100% destroyed
Otherwise, 50% destroyed
12 / 0
99% chance 100% destroyed
Otherwise, 50% destroyed
13 / 0 and above
99% chance 100% destroyed
Otherwise, 50% destroyed
Every Category of Defense reduces this by 1.
So, in the example above, Kalanyr has a total Attack Category of 11.
Mr. Draco and Serpenteye have a total Defense Category of 8.
That is the equivalent of a 3 / 0 on the above scale.
So, Mr. Draco and Serpenteye have a 30% chance of their entire army of 11th level
casters, mage and cleric, being put in the garbage.
A 40% chance that half of them are put in the garbage.
A 50% chance that a quarter of them join the garbage heap.
And so on.
If the Defense Category is stronger than the Attack Category, the following chart
applies:
0 / 0
5% chance 100% destroyed
10% chance 50% destroyed
15% chance 25% destroyed
20% chance 12% destroyed
25% chance 6% destroyed
30% chance 3% destroyed
35% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 1
2% chance 100% destroyed
5% chance 50% destroyed
7% chance 25% destroyed
10% chance 12% destroyed
12% chance 6% destroyed
15% chance 3% destroyed
17% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 2
1% chance 100% destroyed
2% chance 50% destroyed
3% chance 25% destroyed
5% chance 12% destroyed
6% chance 6% destroyed
7% chance 3% destroyed
8% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 3
0% chance 100% destroyed
1% chance 50% destroyed
1% chance 25% destroyed
2% chance 12% destroyed
3% chance 6% destroyed
3% chance 3% destroyed
4% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 4
0% chance 100% destroyed
0% chance 50% destroyed
0% chance 25% destroyed
1% chance 12% destroyed
1% chance 6% destroyed
1% chance 3% destroyed
2% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 5
0% chance 100% destroyed
0% chance 50% destroyed
0% chance 25% destroyed
0% chance 12% destroyed
0% chance 6% destroyed
0% chance 3% destroyed
1% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 6
0% chance 100% destroyed
0% chance 50% destroyed
0% chance 25% destroyed
0% chance 12% destroyed
0% chance 6% destroyed
0% chance 3% destroyed
0% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 7 and beyond
0% chance 100% destroyed
0% chance 50% destroyed
0% chance 25% destroyed
0% chance 12% destroyed
0% chance 6% destroyed
0% chance 3% destroyed
0% chance 1% destroyed
Therefore, it is up to each power to decide how long it will build up it's Attack and
Defense, who will pump up the Attack, and who will bolster the Defense.
THE CLINCHER!
You only get ONE Attack and ONE Defense at a time. One Attack, and One Defense,
simultaneously.
Thus, you can only attack ONE Power at a time.
You can never attack two or more Powers simultaneously.
You may Attack (your one allowed Attack), and you may Defend yourself (your one
allowed Defense), at the same time.
However ...
If you state you are Defending another Power, you cannot Defend yourself!!!
Nor can you Defend more than one other Power from an attack.
(Mr. Draco and Serpenteye count as one Power, for the purpose of defending them.)
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Kalanyr
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ANSWER: I am still working on answering these questions, and making rulings on 11th level magic. It will take a while.
However, I want EVERYONE to know something: I will be running Turn 7 by days, not by months. I will announce the start of each day.
IF YOU DECLARE YOUR 11TH LEVEL ARMY IS LAUNCHING A CATEGORY 4 (OR GREATER) ATTACK OR CATEGORY 4 (OR GREATER) DEFENSE, IT TAKES UP THE ENTIRE DAY.
YOU CANNOT DO ... ANYTHING ... ELSE WITH 11TH LEVEL MAGIC DURING THAT DAY!!!
YOUR ARMY IS SPENDING THE ENTIRE DAY PREPARING FOR THE 11TH LEVEL ATTACK AND/OR DEFENSE, AND IT CANNOT DO ANYTHING ELSE WHILE IT IS DOING THAT!!!
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The Forsaken One
I got a few things I wanna ask, but about the time they need I don't know and frankly I don't care, they need your ruling and if they are possible I'll think of a casting time apropriate.
Can I:
Use my 11th in combination with my Artifact to use the full 100% of my PL to empower my PC thoughout my variant of Metafaculty?
ANSWER: Yes. Vaeregoth can thus employ your entire Power's PL, all at once. No limit to the PL possible for your PC.
If so, when I tap my 5000PL, will it leave my army helpless or will they just be able to fight but don't use psionics anymore?
ANSWER: They will be helpless.
I want to know what I can do with the rest if I tap the full 100% of my power for my PC for something incredible.
Will they be helpless?
ANSWER Yes
Can they fight?
ANSWER: No
Can they still do stuff but no psionics anymore but still magic?
ANSWER: They can do nothing.
Can I extend the duration of my Greyspace wide lucid dreaming with 11th?
ANSWER: No. Your ability to change reality in 5 ways is unique - a one time thing. Do not confuse it with your ability to throw 11th level magic.
Can I create my 11th version of a mythal that would turn a LARGE area under the permanent effect that it merged with the dreamplane and so I'd be able to lucid dream and remake everything in that "mythal" as much and often as I want. As my Oerthwide things but then just for a restricted area but permanent.
ANSWER: Yes. An area the size of Bissel could be permanently altered, so that the 5 changes in reality were forever the new reality there.
Something like this happened to Silvanesti, for those of you who remember the old Dragonlance books.
Can I complete my Larvae project with 11th? (the hatch everything thing)
ANSWER: Yes. It will take the whole of Turn 7.
Can I start on my genetic engeneering project with 11th? The one I'm busy on for turns now
ANSWER: Yes.
Can I cancel magic in a area for the full 100%? So yes what can be done to counter it or prevent it.
ANSWER: You can try to cancel magic over an area. I have yet to rule on this subject.
Can I greatly alter the climate and geography in certain areas? Fast and permanent?
ANSWER: Read my rulings on 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Can I create gates with 11th that are permanent to for example machanus to VASTLY increase the amount of summons I bring it.
ANSWER: Read my rulings on 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Can I make red goo go away in LARGE numbers and quantaties?
ANSWER: Read my rulings on 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Can I enhance my already formidable hatching process, i f so to which level/degree?
ANSWER: Yes. Enough to increase your PL significantly.
Can I create a huge protection force around the deeper regions of the plane to make it withstand the largest of quakes, nuclear and antimatter hits?
ANSWER: Yes. I have yet to make a detailed ruling on this.
Can I create with this same forcefield the effect that prevents this world from blowing or cracking up. Say if someone blasted the core that it would hold, or if someone crashed the moon into the plane that it would crack up, at least not the place I'm int but that it remains intact?
Can I heal Oerths wounds with 11th?
Can I throw a mountain at someone?
Can I create a anti scrying and teleportation field against 11th?
Can I create a area in which Magic doesn't work at all?
ANSWER: I will rule on all these questions, and post them in the growing list of what you can do with 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
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Kalanyr
Iuz and his concubines :
If you can't guess this one from the way my PC acts about most things, you've been skipping even more of my posts than I thought Edena.
Kalanyr would do everything in his power to free them, (short of killing or injurying somebody) of any sort of control that compels them to do anything they do not wish to.He would see that they get the best treatment possible, food , company etc.
Melkor Regarding Wife,Children Concubines:
" I hope to have a wife soon* depends on how Siobhan responds, I am little rush in this respect."
Soon* = Soon in outsider terms, ie sometime before the Multiverse Ends.Preferably within a Millenia or too
Here Kalanyr's face takes on a sad and pained look
"I have children but I doubt kidnapping them will do you any good, except to wound me in spirit, since they probably already want to eat my heart. Given that they are half-fiends and fiends in the service of Lolth my guess is you'd find them with the Armada of Darkness or in Ravenloft somewhere. "
"If you are interested I can safely state my father still lives, Acererak keeps him in a jar to my best knowledge.Unless he has freed him for some purpose of his own. I believe they called him Tarnhelm"
Concubines
"Those would be none. As a demon amongst ambitious drow I'm wasn't that stupid. As I am I have no desire to enslave people to serve my physical needs. That is exactly the type of thing I aim to get rid of. "
Athas:
I would have contacted the Avangions of Athas and share all I knew with them.
Hmmm, I would also send Emissaries to the Elemental Lords of Athas and the Para-Elemental Lord of Rain since he's the only Para-Elemental Lord I can think of that doesn't want to trash Athas even more.
I also wish to contact the Ffolk and the escaped slave villages of Athas.
One thing I teach them is how to create water,food and iron with magic.
ANSWER: I do not skip posts. I may miss them, but I do not deliberately skip them.
There is nothing you can do about Melkor and Iuz's concubines, obviously - short of kicking them out of the party for their behavior.
The God Emperor treats his concubines well, and they consider it an honor to pleasure him - that is their culture. But the situation with Iuz and Melkor is grim, as slave societies typically are.
You efforts to help the people of Athas are noted. They need that help. They are under heavy attack by Melkor.
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zouron
So who has 11th level amgic now? or more specific does the Eternal Union have 11th level magic (as a former Toril faction).
ANSWER: The Eternal Union has 11th level magic. So do all those Powers in the lists above on this thread.
and as far as I understand if the crystal spheres goes to ravenloft, then if they form a new pocket domains 11th level magic be retained, but if they join a pre existing domain it will vanish right? Just as technology must abid by the level of tech of the domain.
IF we head into Ravenloft, will each fation leader have their own domain or what? or do we have to fight until one of the evil dudes become single overlord and claims lordship (of the lowest degree of darklord) over the spheres?
Will you allow us to state multiple actions of red goo removal in one post if/when we go offline for several hours in a row, or do you want to post 3 or 4 times saying "I remove red goo from X"?
Finally a bit ravenloft input edena didn't mention.
Forgotten realms isn't a world called that it is acalled toril, in the same way ravenloft isn't called ravenloft.
The name Ravenloft referes to the castle of a Count Stradh Von Zarovich, whom is the first known darklord of the current "game" the Darklords or mist (in common tongue) plays.
The Demiplane that lays in the Deep Ethereal is commonly known as Domains of Dread and is greatly feared even by evil, it is to none gods what Carceri is to gods, and appearently the mist likes to torture and delude it's prisinors.
Yes you can get to Ravenloft with a teleport, you do't need that though, you just have to wish for it enough then the mist gladly brings you along, but don't count it set you off someplace safe. To the mist when you are not a Darklord it really doesn't care what you are, you are without great importance at best a pawn to annoy the darklords with (and yes the mist seems to like this more then extremely much).
There is much more or Ravenloft, but let us just say the place likes make you suffer.
ANSWER: Zouron is telling you the truth here. In fact, the reality of Ravenloft probably even darker than he is describing.
If Oerth becomes a part of Ravenloft, it becomes it's own Domain. So does Krynn. So does Toril. So does Athas. The Crystal Spheres around each become a part of each respective Domain. As for who is the Darklord ... I think a lot of evil Powers are trying for that spot right now, while the Spheres are still in the Prime Material Plane.
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The Forsaken One
Edena According to you I lost 8 PL in NPC's....? How when and or why? Since I never had any combat since turn 3 anymore except with my PC? Curious...
ANSWER: You are going to have 11th level magic, be able to summon 100,000 PL in help, and you are worried about 8 PL in NPCs?
And Edena, I controlled Valkys his forces for 2 turns... and we had him in my Hive Cluster for 2 turns... That would mean fairly good relations with eachother I'd say.... So at least for me it would be more logical to let me add them to myself or play them.....
ANSWER: You already have 11th level magic. Only those without 11th level magic may make claims to the 8 Powers.
Someone stated I would allocate the Powers - I am waiting for people to CLAIM them, before I arbitrate the claims.
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Kalanyr
Dear Dumb Dragon King Tyrants
Go and convince some Avangions and Rajaat, himself, to serve you, they are more likely to than I am.
Kalanyr
Strange looking elf with wings
ANSWER: Said dumb dragon king tyrants are busy allying with Tokiwong, who has just claimed the Eternal Empire.
Hmmm ... he will have the strength of the dragon-kings, all that remains of the Empire of Iuz, and the full might of the Eternal Empire, and he will have 11th level magic.
Maybe they aren't so dumb after all ...
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Tokiwong
Iuz looks to the members of the Veiled Alliance and then to the message sent from the Dragon Kings.... "These beings are truly foolish... why Borys of Eve was even protecting them is beyond me..." he turns to the assembled members of the Veiled Alliance, "There was a time..."
One of them a lithe human woman speaks up, "That you would have accepted..."
Iuz looked up, "But it is not to be... I will not betray a world that despises me.. for it is my world... and to do so will only warrant more war... for now... my allies... we shall leave this place... and enjoy the freedom to train the arcane arts in the open... you shall all be esteemed members of the Veiled Alliance no more... but the Council of Arcana... you will have the freedom to pursue the art you all have a passion and gift for..."
The woman nods, as Iuz continues, "The cycle of madness nearly overtook me a third time... come... we have much to do and learn..." Iuz leads the members of the Veiled Alliance to his secret Retreat...
The Veiled Alliance?
It was the Dragon-Kings that offered you alliance, Tokiwong, not the Veiled Alliance.
The Veiled Alliance accepts your offer, but they state they do NOT wish to become involved in the war on Oerth.
All they want is understanding and knowledge to protect Athas with, from the onslaught of the Shade and other dangers.
They will come, but they will not fight.
-Message to Hazen and all of Oerth-
The Dragon Kings come...
They demand total servitude... I blame myself for such a travesty... a thousand times over I have damned this world... and for now I shall see to it to minimize my contact... Self-Imposed exile... my lands when they are healed are at your disposal... do with them what you like...
-Iuz
Dragon Kings,
I came to your world with a force of men, if only to protect myself... but I am at fault for such conflict... but I WILL NOT betray my allies... nor my world ever again... the consequences... are too much... come join the Hell of your own making... Joine the conflict of my world... you cannot possibly damn it more then we have...
In short my answer is no... I will not be subservient... I will not cower... Athas will be a better place... the Return to the Age of Blue... will occur...
-Iuz
OOC: Nope not going to do it... Edena evacuating the Veiled Alliance to my secrect local... then well onward to Edena Knows where... to my Temple City... time for reflection... Iuz is not pleased with the turn of events... oh and hey don't worry Edena I know Ravenloft very well... can I recruit Azalin?
ANSWER: The Dragon-Kings are infuriated with your answer. And they state that if Iuz will not ally with them, they will find OTHER allies, much better allies ...
It is NOT possible to contact anyone in Ravenloft yet. Not unless you go there. IF you go there, now, you're out of the IR for the moment - because there is no returning from Ravenloft (of course, if the IR goes to Ravenloft, you're back in business.)
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Spoof
Not using the Angels from the 7th Heavens how much PL can I call using the Celestials from St. Cuthbert?
ANSWER: See the limits on what you can do with 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Also I thought you said that 10th level magic was a requirement for 11th level magic.
How are those people who did not have 10th level magic getting 11th now? If you want to give someone 11th level magic for outside reasons that is cool, but to allow anyone who did not research 10th go straight to 11th seems wrong. They had the option of spending PL earlier to get to 10th but chose not to, now with last turn they suddenly say hey I can get 11th now, why not? Allow them to have 10th this turn and 11th next, it would seem fairer to me anyway, but it is your call.
ANSWER: I thought of that. But I allowed the straight jump. A decision that was difficult, and a dilemma, but I made the choice.
As for Alzem’s Alignment change that was voluntary, his alignment is now the same as his god, Lawful Neutral. It was not the mists.
ANSWER: Oh, he is Lawful Neutral now? That makes a difference.
Instead of pure Celestials, a mixture of Celestials and Modrons will come.
Oh also needless to say I will expunge the red goo from Hope Isle Oreth and create an 11th level Mythal around the island, I will send you what it does later. I will also use 11th level magic to create Orethblood fountains across Hope Isle to keep it free from the Red goo and heal the land. Creating a large lake underground/surface of the stuff on the island. Also did I ever contact the Mercans. (sp) I will send you an e-mail of the different things I am trying to do with 11th level magic. I posted this as it is something that I would not be able or want to hide.
ANSWER: This is an Interlude. Wait until Turn 7 before posting that you are doing things - action posts shouldn't occur during an Interlude (which lasts only a short time IC.)
You can, at the very beginning of Turn 7, expunge the Red Goo, and create your 11th level Mythal, BUT ..
Remember that if you do this, you cannot create a Category 4 or greater Attack or Category 4 or greater Defense for your Power (which requires a full Day's concentration by your army of mages and clerics.) You are limited to launching Category 3 Attacks and Defenses or lower.
In other words, while you are busy building your Mythal, an enemy might just decide to snuff your Power out, mages, Mythal, and all, and they might very well succeed.
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LordMelkor{Talos}
I would greatly apreciate this, I need 11th level magic badly.
And how much territory do I control on Athas now? Note that I absorb entire population into Red Army.
ANSWER: You only have a beachhead on Athas right now. Almost none of it is under your control. The Dragon-Kings are NOT pushovers.
You have 11th level magic, as of right now. For you regain the Church of Shade in Realmspace, and it is now a Power per se, under your control, and it most certainly can use 11th level magic.
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Anabstercorian
Answer these in yes or no, so you won't have your head explode.
Can I seal away Luna forever?
NO.
Can I grant the souls trapped in Luna a merciful death?
NO.
Can I remove the need for Illithid to eat brains?
YES.
Can I, in an emergency, collapse the Crystal Sphere of Oerth in to oblivion to prevent the Red Goo from escaping?
NO.
Can I seal Athas from Oerth and Toril forever?
NO.
Can I accelerate construction of the Penumbral Hub?
Yes. But if you do, remember that that means you are using 11th level magic for something other than Attack or Defense.
That means you can only make Attacks or put up Defenses of Category 3 or less - Category 4 Attacks and Defenses require a full day's concentration by all your mages and clerics (5 requires a full week, 6 a full turn.) They can do nothing else while concentrating.
It's your choice. I am running Turn 7 by the day - you can state you are using your 11th level magic to do whatever you want, within the limits of my post on page one, or you can state your entire mage/cleric army is preparing Category 4 Attacks and Defenses.
The choice, is yours.
Can I create a flexible chain between Oerth and the Sun and put an elevator on it?
YES. But it will require a week's worth of 11th level magic to do it.
Can I seal Toril away from the bedlam that is sure to occur over the next month? It's the last intact place to conquer.
NO.
Can I alter Illithid larvae so that they can fly through the air at high speed and crunch in to peoples heads to transform them in to Illithid?
YES. That requires 11th level magic.
Can I find the exact location of the Staff of Ancient Penumbra?
YES. It will take the entire Turn to do it.
Can I kick everyone in Greyspace, Realmspace, and Krynnspace in the crotch simultaneously?
You can try.
Can I create a magical weapon that uses nuclear bombs as ammunition, that focuses their explosion in to a tight beam of energy, and transfers the recoil in to bedrock?
YES.
Can I Teleport vast quantities of Red Goo in to the Positive Energy Plane?
YES. The result will be a colossal explosion, and if you are present when it goes off, you will cease to exist (you will actually die.)
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Melkor
ANSWER TO QUESTION:
Yes, Melkor, you gain 11th level magic by default, the same way Zouron did.
And Edena, I also spread Shade Poisoning on Athas, in addition to Red Goo.
ANSWER: Noted. You are just beginning to do so.
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LordMelkor{Talos}
No, Iuz, not Blue Age, Red and Black shall be dominant colors.
Edena, can I contact Dark Powers? If so, than I have a following offer for them:
I will help to absorb all three spheres into Ravenloft, but in exchange I demand my Avatar to be Darklord of newly created Domain.
ANSWER: You cannot contact the Dark Powers. I KNOW what the Dark Powers are - I figured out their stats, race, gender, abilities, etc., etc., etc., a long time ago.
The reason you cannot contact the Dark Powers, is because you are looking in the wrong place FOR the Dark Powers.
Start telling me where you are looking, and you might actually find them.
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Anabstercorian
Holy shiz-nit!
Melkor, you is evil.
Can I teleport the entire Army of Darkness out of this Crystal Sphere?
ANSWER: You could do that with mere 10th level magic. HOWEVER ... the Curse of the 2 Touches stays with you. It doesn't matter if you go up to the Sixth Heaven for a vacation of a thousand years.
A thousand years later, you still manifest all the symptoms of Touch 1 and Touch 2.
And no, no deity can undo the effects of Touch 1 and Touch 2.
Only you can undo it, and that won't be easy.
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zouron
Melkor are you sure?
Serious are you sure you will attempt this? first off the dark powers (and be sure of this) may answer but they will certainly not grant your wish in any way you would like them to.
ANSWER: (chuckles VERY evilly ... go ahead, make a Wish, any Wish. The Dark Powers are always willing to grant a Wish ... always ...)
Even trying to contact might make you get forced to Ravenloft without getting your wish.
ANSWER: That is quite true, but I am trying not to be overly harsh, and so there is no immediate danger of that happening.
Being a darklord in Ravenloft isn't being ruler of a domain to ones pleasure, it is eternal torture just being able to see what one wants the most and then have it taken away. Your domain isn't your land to do with as you please it is the land which has no other purpose then to cause you grief in any way you would not like it.
well anyway good luck Melkor I just feel you will be cheated from the price you so much want.
ANSWER: Zouron is quite right. The Darklords are the most imprisoned of all ... and generally, they are the most unhappy of all, in the Demiplane of Dread that is known as Ravenloft.
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Kalanyr
Hmm, I think I agree with Anab.
Of course I have to add why on Oerth are you trying to hurry yourself into a Prison, Melkor? The Dark Powers tend to torment the willingly evil more than any other.
ANSWER: I never said Melkor would become a Darklord, if Oerth was sucked into Ravenloft. The Dark Powers choose who becomes a Darklord, and I play the Dark Powers.
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LordMelkor{Talos}
TO Black Omega:
-Melkor erupts in sinister laughter after hearing Siobhan`s words:
-You want to hear what I want?! Well among other things, I want YOU! I desire you, and you will be mine, in body and soul, your resistance will make things only more funny, but finally you will totally submit to my will, and you will learn to find pleasure in pain, and suffering of others. Oh, and this loser Kalanyr won`t help you, I would squash him like a bug if he only had guts to face me, his power is no match for mine.
ANSWER: Heh. Now, that's the Melkor we know and love!
Good rping, Melkor.
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LordMelkor{Talos}
Well Anab, Zauron, and Kalanyr, ONLY my Avatar will be a part of Ravenloft, not Melkor himself.
ANSWER: (the DM smiles very, very evilly) Wanna bet?
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Black Omega
No such thing as too much! And Siobhan did get involved with Kal when he was evil, so you never know.
ANSWER: (look of surprise.) Well, it's all up to Siobhan, of course ... I am sure Melkor could teach her the darkest depths of pleasure and pain ...
Well, someone had to be the first to answer and paint the bullseye on themselves.
Nice to see I got their attention.
ANSWER: Yes indeed. The Dragon-Kings of Athas have big plans for your Power, Black Omega.
Maybe not, but life gets dull if you only place it safe. It you are going to walk the edge, you may as well dance.
ANSWER: Cheers, Black Omega! Well put!
Hmm...Siobhan certainly wouldn't mind. there's no rush but if we wait on peace it might never happen. Might be time to at least do that ring shopping.
Questions for Edena on 11th level magic.
Can I change my iron golems to Oerthblood golems? Or at least admantium?
YES AND YES.
Can I 'treat' a area of lance to make it resistant to the red goo being returned?
YES. But just remember, if you use 11th level magic for any purpose but to Attack or Defend, you cannot launch a Category 4 or greater Attack or Defense, but must content yourself with a Category 3 Attack or Defense or less instead.
All fine and well, unless Mr. Draco and Serpenteye decide to both spend an entire day preparing an Attack, and hit you with a Category 8 Attack.
In which case, prepare to pay the piper.
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Kalanyr
Hey Melkor last time I checked none of the Races Kalanyr the PC have been, have a -12 Penalty to Intelligence,Wisdom and Charisma, which is what you'd need to singlehandedly try and fight someone 5 times as powerful as you. Without special circumstances.
ANSWER: Heh. That's nothing. Wait until Vaeregoth starts running around with 5,000 plus PL. I'd like to see the being who would dare take Vaeregoth on then ...
By the way, you can use 11th level magic to duplicate Vaeregoth's feat. It will take an entire day to do it, but it can be done with 11th level magic.
Of course, your Power can then only launch a Category 3 Attack and Category 3 Defense or less.
In other words, your PC might have no Power to supply him PL with ...
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Venus
Can I remove the Red Goo from Oerth completely?
ANSWER: YES. It will take the entire Turn, and this assumes nobody else interferes. Of course, you cannot launch any Category 4 or greater Attacks or Defenses while you are doing this.
Can I heal the wound in Oerth itself, removing the source of the red goo?
YES. It will take the whole Turn.
Can I get more Oerthblood?
YES. See my description on what you can do with 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Can I stop the fog?
NO.
Can I revive angels that died in the battle between the Red Army, the Devils and the Angels?
NO.
Can I free Luna?
You can remove the Sunstare on it. That will take the entire Turn.
You might not want to do that - the population there was buried alive, and they cannot be reasoned with now - they will attack Oerth.
Can I restore any geological damage done to Oerth?
YES. See the limits on what you can do with 11th level magic. First post.
Can I make the sun shine bright again?
YES. It will take the entire Turn, and in addition there must be no interference from anyone else.
Can I create pocket dimensions?
YES. 100 of them, each sized LL.
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LordMelkor{Talos}
Well, I am Melkor The Great, if anyone can make a deal with Dark Powers and get away with this, it is me! Actually I find the power I gained from merging with Red Goo not enough, I hunger for more, my appetite is infinitive!
ANSWER: You have to FIND the Dark Powers before you can bargain with them, Melkor.
You have not located them yet.
Better keep looking.
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dagger
If you need anything from me Venus, dont hesitate to ask.
ANSWER: Dagger, I urge you to select one of the 8 open Powers on the lists above.
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Zelda Themelin
OOC:
LOL When I read this post, I laughted aloud for five minutes, well actually I still do. Please, continue being so delighfully evil. Melkor's personality remains me a lot of my late character's daddy dearest.
ANSWER: Heh. The evil you can come to love.
Zelda, I urge you to take one of the 8 Powers I have listed as open. I think you'd enjoy it - having 11th level magic to throw around at some of these guys.
Edena: How hard and slow it is make few small areas on Oerth livable for part of my people, with help of 9th level magic, druids, elementals and direct manpower. My template didn't use PL reserves for almost anything but defense last turn (6th), so I should have free hands at least.
ANSWER: With only 9th level magic and below, you can make the Kron Hills habitable, barely. You can begin restoring the damaged soil, begin growing hardy plants, and you can make the atmosphere breathable.
So, amost all my npc are dead. 3 PL left only, that leaves two alive. Another must be Kasha the Witch, and another is Ergoth-Nog prince of Storm riders of Telchuria, man who became closest friend to now dead Lord Baron Elvor of Ratik and leader for People of Timberway Forest.
Am I right here?
ANSWER: Yes. But remember that you can resurrect or wish your NPCs back.
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Forrester
This is all really quite silly. If 11th level magic could have these kinds of effects, on Toril we would have long ago deciphered the full contents of the City of the Gods by now (we all have an Int of 50, with our double-empowered Int-boosting spells up and our base 40 Int).
Hell, we'd have practically ascended into godhood. We've been living with 11th level magic for *years* on Toril, for pete's sake. If a single post re 11th level magic could have world-ending effects, or world-creating effects . . . I mean, c'mon.
This is all just too silly. After I get 11th level magic on Oerth, we retreat back to Toril, close off Realmspace to make sure nobody can invade (we HAVE been building protections/walls for freaking years now), and party.
Here endeth Forrester's participation in the IR.
If you want to cast Toril into flames, Edena, or blow it up by giving a random Oerthian an artifact that allows him to destroy worlds, or suck it into Ravenloft, be my guest. Knock yourself out.
ANSWER: It goes without saying that reading this post was painful. And I went offline for 12 hours afterwards, drained of any energy or will to continue the IR. However, I am back. I will not go away. As long as you will not, I will not.
I must arbitrate 11th level magic. Is it silly? Yes. It is ridiculous? Yes. Is it playing God? Yes. Am I to tell Mr. Draco and Serpenteye they can't have what they sacrificed and paid for, for 2 months IRL and 6 Turns of the IR to achieve? No.
And remember, the IR was always meant to be silly. It was never serious. Just exactly how long do you think the Chosen of Mystra and the Powers That Be on the real Toril would have tolerated the Gnomish Industrial Revolution? Heck, you can't fire an arquebus in the setting without the Watchful Order of Magisters hunting you down, and Khelben is backing them.
This is not about a chess tournament. This is about fun.
Besides, I do not believe there has ever been an 11th level intergalatic war game before. But there is always a first (even if it may well crash and burn.)
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Zelda Themelin
Need to resist... nooooh....
Some effects would IMO be possible. Though must remember these are still just questions. And, Oearth does have history of time, where magic did a lot of harm, but we should not forget balance of power either. If some side could easily do something, there would be other one to easily stop it, most of the time.
Mmh, maybe you became gods.
That would explain your problems to bring your all power and knowledge to Oearh to start with. Now wouldn't that be weird?
And you were revealing in the afterglow of all those good times that followed those terrible wars, that you didn't even notice.
Such a sense of responsiblity. Yep, I smell certain trait of divinity here.
I see no reason, why such tactic wouldn't work however.
*Sniff*. Goodbye then, come back when you feel like it.
ANSWER: Actually, 11th level magic could be used to make Oerth into a paradise. Literally. The volcanoes could be calmed, the geography could be restored, the flora and fauna returned, the atmosphere returned to normal.
Humankind could be rendered immune to disease and parasites, given a 40 in every stat, made immune to all normal injuries, made to feel constantly healthy and strong.
Depression and mental illness could be greatly reduced, people could achieve fulfillment, dreams could come true.
The Mists could be driven off, the effect of the Touches reversed, and real immortality of a much more healthy kind could be bestowed upon those who want it, and desire it (although death through battle will always be a possibility.)
All this is possible with 11th level magic.
However, for this to happen, the Powers of Oerth must work together to make it happen.
Why dont' you do something IC to stop him then, please?
Though since I really wonder should Toril be in any danger from being sucked into Ravenloft in the first place. Now, that would give a little too much credit to power of these so called dark lords. Now on Oerth, with psychos like Melkor helping, impossible might become improbable, and with some more help, even possible. Toril didn't get involted, except through our Lord of Chaos, Forrester, and they didn't want him to do that either, so it's truly unlikely Toril ends up into this mesh. Probably dark powers or whatsoever are just twisting divinations to make it seem so, or maybe it is our new god of dreams.
Let's hold our horses, story has yet to unfold.
ANSWER: Do not underestimate the power of the Dark Powers. They have inflicted the First Touch, Second Touch, and are closing in on the Third Touch, against you all. Six Touches, and off to Ravenloft everyone goes, and then there is no returning.
I am reposting this below.
And yes, Serpenteye and Draco DO count as two separate Powers, who can launch TWO Attacks and TWO Defenses.
I want you to be afraid of the Union of Oerth.
You should be afraid of the Union of Oerth.
The Union of Oerth have been very carefully, steathily, and ruthlessly building their Power for the last 6 Turns.
This is the payoff for that effort.
Edena
DEALING WITH 11TH LEVEL TROUBLEMAKERS, THE FUN AND EASY WAY
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THE USUAL QUESTIONS
It all starts with the usual questions, but the answers ... ah, there is where the
difference is!
What can you do with 11th level magic quickly?
You can launch a Stage 1 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 1 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic in a few minutes?
You can launch a Stage 2 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 2 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic in an hour?
You can launch a Stage 3 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 3 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic in a day?
You can launch a Stage 4 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 4 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic in a week?
You can launch a Stage 5 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 5 Defense (see below)
What can you do with 11th level magic using all of Turn 7 to do it?
You can launch a Stage 6 Attack (see below)
You can launch a Stage 6 Defense (see below)
PUTTING THE OTHER POWER IN THE GARBAGE
You all know the trouble is that each Power has several thousand mages who can cast
11th level magic, and several thousand clerics who can cast 11th level magic.
Right?
Get rid of those mages and clerics, and PRESTO: no more problems with 11th level
magic from that Power.
That includes that Power's NPCs.
It does not include that Power's PC, but that PC cannot rebuild his army of lost mages
and clerics - he is a lone 11th level caster against your thousands of 11th level casters.
Guess what happens to him next? (chuckle)
Now, all you need to do is to have your thousands of mages and clerics, launch a
single attack - combining all their power - against the enemy mages and clerics, to get
rid of them.
The longer you take to launch this attack, the more powerful it is - thus the Stages
above.
Each Stage simply means the Attack is more powerful.
DISPOSING OF THE GARBAGE
If your attack succeeds, you can dispose of the enemy mages and clerics in the
garbage, as follows:
You can send them to Ravenloft. They won't be returning to bother anyone, ever
again.
You can send them to the 9th Plane of Hell. Nothing can return (DM's ruling) from
there.
You can send them to the Seventh Heaven. Nothing returns from there either.
You can teleport them all into one of those giant Spheres of Annihilation that is lying
around. They won't be returning from that.
Or, you can declare it a simple, straight, 11th level kill.
The body will live (because of the Mists) but the soul is destroyed, so the enemy
mages and clerics becoming babbling idiots, or mindless automatons, or go into
permanent catatonia, incapable of ever casting magic again, or doing much of
anything else either.
Anyway you put it, it comes up Enemy Neutralized. No more 11th level nonsense out of
him!
(His Power retains 10th level magic, and still exists ... until you use your 11th level
magic to blow his Power to smithereens, capture his PC, and subject his PC to all your
built up displeasure at his doings.)
Now, as I said, the longer you build up the power, the greater the attack, as
represented by the Categories given above.
If an ally helps you in the attack, his Categories stack with yours.
If you are being attacked - if someone and their allies are trying to put YOU in the
garbage can - you can defend yourself.
The longer you build up your defense, the greater the defensive power - thus, the
Category system once more.
Again, a higher Category simply means your defense is stronger.
If allies come and help you, their Categories stack with yours.
EXAMPLE:
So, if Kalanyr waits an hour, building his power up, he would throw a Category 3 attack.
If Alzem, who had taken only a few minutes to build an attack, joined him, the
combined Attack Category would increase to 5.
If Forrester, who built up for an entire Turn, then joined them, the combined Category
would jump to 11.
Mr. Draco and Serpenteye, although they are playing one power, may combine their
Categories - they are counted as two separate Powers for this purpose.
So, let us say both of them are the ones under attack by Kalanyr, above.
Both have spent a whole day preparing, so they each have a Category 4 defense.
The 2 Categories stack, so they have a Category 8 defense.
Thus, it becomes a Category 11 Attack versus a Category 8 Defense.
What will happen? See below! The charts show what might happen!
MISCELLANEOUS
I will be running Turn 7 in terms of DAYS passed - I will announce day 1, then day 2,
etc.
It is appreciated that the IR is a worldwide affair, and it takes people time to post.
Therefore, if someone posts they are making an attack, the defender has 24 hours
IRL to post he is defending himself, and his allies also have 24 hours to post they are
helping.
If someone posts they are making an attack, people have 24 hours to post they are
helping the attack, also.
At the end of that 24 hour period, I will resolve the attack.
THE CHARTS
And just what is the resolution?
Well, it is summarized below:
(Mind you, I the DM always make the percentile rolls below!)
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Attack Category / Defense Category
Effect on Defender
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1 / 0
10% chance 100% destroyed
20% chance 50% destroyed
30% chance 25% destroyed
40% chance 12% destroyed
50% chance 6% destroyed
60% chance 3% destroyed
70% chance 1% destroyed
2 / 0
20% chance 100% destroyed
30% chance 50% destroyed
40% chance 25% destroyed
50% chance 12% destroyed
60% chance 6% destroyed
70% chance 3% destroyed
80% chance 1% destroyed
3 / 0
30% chance 100% destroyed
40% chance 50% destroyed
50% chance 25% destroyed
60% chance 12% destroyed
70% chance 6% destroyed
80% chance 3% destroyed
90% chance 1% destroyed
4 / 0
40% chance 100% destroyed
50% chance 50% destroyed
60% chance 25% destroyed
70% chance 12% destroyed
80% chance 6% destroyed
90% chance 3% destroyed
99% chance 1% destroyed
5 / 0
50% chance 100% destroyed
60% chance 50% destroyed
70% chance 25% destroyed
80% chance 12% destroyed
90% chance 6% destroyed
99% chance 3% destroyed
6 / 0
60% chance 100% destroyed
70% chance 50% destroyed
80% chance 25% destroyed
90% chance 12% destroyed
99% chance 6% destroyed
7 / 0
70% chance 100% destroyed
80% chance 50% destroyed
90% chance 25% destroyed
99% chance 12% destroyed
8 / 0
80% chance 100% destroyed
90% chance 50% destroyed
99% chance 25% destroyed
9 / 0
90% chance 100% destroyed
99% chance 50% destroyed
10 / 0
95% chance 100% destroyed
Otherwise, 50% destroyed
11 / 0
98% chance 100% destroyed
Otherwise, 50% destroyed
12 / 0
99% chance 100% destroyed
Otherwise, 50% destroyed
13 / 0 and above
99% chance 100% destroyed
Otherwise, 50% destroyed
Every Category of Defense reduces this by 1.
So, in the example above, Kalanyr has a total Attack Category of 11.
Mr. Draco and Serpenteye have a total Defense Category of 8.
That is the equivalent of a 3 / 0 on the above scale.
So, Mr. Draco and Serpenteye have a 30% chance of their entire army of 11th level
casters, mage and cleric, being put in the garbage.
A 40% chance that half of them are put in the garbage.
A 50% chance that a quarter of them join the garbage heap.
And so on.
If the Defense Category is stronger than the Attack Category, the following chart
applies:
0 / 0
5% chance 100% destroyed
10% chance 50% destroyed
15% chance 25% destroyed
20% chance 12% destroyed
25% chance 6% destroyed
30% chance 3% destroyed
35% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 1
2% chance 100% destroyed
5% chance 50% destroyed
7% chance 25% destroyed
10% chance 12% destroyed
12% chance 6% destroyed
15% chance 3% destroyed
17% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 2
1% chance 100% destroyed
2% chance 50% destroyed
3% chance 25% destroyed
5% chance 12% destroyed
6% chance 6% destroyed
7% chance 3% destroyed
8% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 3
0% chance 100% destroyed
1% chance 50% destroyed
1% chance 25% destroyed
2% chance 12% destroyed
3% chance 6% destroyed
3% chance 3% destroyed
4% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 4
0% chance 100% destroyed
0% chance 50% destroyed
0% chance 25% destroyed
1% chance 12% destroyed
1% chance 6% destroyed
1% chance 3% destroyed
2% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 5
0% chance 100% destroyed
0% chance 50% destroyed
0% chance 25% destroyed
0% chance 12% destroyed
0% chance 6% destroyed
0% chance 3% destroyed
1% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 6
0% chance 100% destroyed
0% chance 50% destroyed
0% chance 25% destroyed
0% chance 12% destroyed
0% chance 6% destroyed
0% chance 3% destroyed
0% chance 1% destroyed
0 / 7 and beyond
0% chance 100% destroyed
0% chance 50% destroyed
0% chance 25% destroyed
0% chance 12% destroyed
0% chance 6% destroyed
0% chance 3% destroyed
0% chance 1% destroyed
Therefore, it is up to each power to decide how long it will build up it's Attack and
Defense, who will pump up the Attack, and who will bolster the Defense.
THE CLINCHER!
You only get ONE Attack and ONE Defense at a time. One Attack, and One Defense,
simultaneously.
Thus, you can only attack ONE Power at a time.
You can never attack two or more Powers simultaneously.
You may Attack (your one allowed Attack), and you may Defend yourself (your one
allowed Defense), at the same time.
However ...
If you state you are Defending another Power, you cannot Defend yourself!!!
Nor can you Defend more than one other Power from an attack.
(Mr. Draco and Serpenteye count as one Power, for the purpose of defending them.)
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Kalanyr
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ANSWER: I am still working on answering these questions, and making rulings on 11th level magic. It will take a while.
However, I want EVERYONE to know something: I will be running Turn 7 by days, not by months. I will announce the start of each day.
IF YOU DECLARE YOUR 11TH LEVEL ARMY IS LAUNCHING A CATEGORY 4 (OR GREATER) ATTACK OR CATEGORY 4 (OR GREATER) DEFENSE, IT TAKES UP THE ENTIRE DAY.
YOU CANNOT DO ... ANYTHING ... ELSE WITH 11TH LEVEL MAGIC DURING THAT DAY!!!
YOUR ARMY IS SPENDING THE ENTIRE DAY PREPARING FOR THE 11TH LEVEL ATTACK AND/OR DEFENSE, AND IT CANNOT DO ANYTHING ELSE WHILE IT IS DOING THAT!!!
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The Forsaken One
I got a few things I wanna ask, but about the time they need I don't know and frankly I don't care, they need your ruling and if they are possible I'll think of a casting time apropriate.
Can I:
Use my 11th in combination with my Artifact to use the full 100% of my PL to empower my PC thoughout my variant of Metafaculty?
ANSWER: Yes. Vaeregoth can thus employ your entire Power's PL, all at once. No limit to the PL possible for your PC.
If so, when I tap my 5000PL, will it leave my army helpless or will they just be able to fight but don't use psionics anymore?
ANSWER: They will be helpless.
I want to know what I can do with the rest if I tap the full 100% of my power for my PC for something incredible.
Will they be helpless?
ANSWER Yes
Can they fight?
ANSWER: No
Can they still do stuff but no psionics anymore but still magic?
ANSWER: They can do nothing.
Can I extend the duration of my Greyspace wide lucid dreaming with 11th?
ANSWER: No. Your ability to change reality in 5 ways is unique - a one time thing. Do not confuse it with your ability to throw 11th level magic.
Can I create my 11th version of a mythal that would turn a LARGE area under the permanent effect that it merged with the dreamplane and so I'd be able to lucid dream and remake everything in that "mythal" as much and often as I want. As my Oerthwide things but then just for a restricted area but permanent.
ANSWER: Yes. An area the size of Bissel could be permanently altered, so that the 5 changes in reality were forever the new reality there.
Something like this happened to Silvanesti, for those of you who remember the old Dragonlance books.
Can I complete my Larvae project with 11th? (the hatch everything thing)
ANSWER: Yes. It will take the whole of Turn 7.
Can I start on my genetic engeneering project with 11th? The one I'm busy on for turns now
ANSWER: Yes.
Can I cancel magic in a area for the full 100%? So yes what can be done to counter it or prevent it.
ANSWER: You can try to cancel magic over an area. I have yet to rule on this subject.
Can I greatly alter the climate and geography in certain areas? Fast and permanent?
ANSWER: Read my rulings on 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Can I create gates with 11th that are permanent to for example machanus to VASTLY increase the amount of summons I bring it.
ANSWER: Read my rulings on 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Can I make red goo go away in LARGE numbers and quantaties?
ANSWER: Read my rulings on 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Can I enhance my already formidable hatching process, i f so to which level/degree?
ANSWER: Yes. Enough to increase your PL significantly.
Can I create a huge protection force around the deeper regions of the plane to make it withstand the largest of quakes, nuclear and antimatter hits?
ANSWER: Yes. I have yet to make a detailed ruling on this.
Can I create with this same forcefield the effect that prevents this world from blowing or cracking up. Say if someone blasted the core that it would hold, or if someone crashed the moon into the plane that it would crack up, at least not the place I'm int but that it remains intact?
Can I heal Oerths wounds with 11th?
Can I throw a mountain at someone?
Can I create a anti scrying and teleportation field against 11th?
Can I create a area in which Magic doesn't work at all?
ANSWER: I will rule on all these questions, and post them in the growing list of what you can do with 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
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Kalanyr
Iuz and his concubines :
If you can't guess this one from the way my PC acts about most things, you've been skipping even more of my posts than I thought Edena.
Kalanyr would do everything in his power to free them, (short of killing or injurying somebody) of any sort of control that compels them to do anything they do not wish to.He would see that they get the best treatment possible, food , company etc.
Melkor Regarding Wife,Children Concubines:
" I hope to have a wife soon* depends on how Siobhan responds, I am little rush in this respect."
Soon* = Soon in outsider terms, ie sometime before the Multiverse Ends.Preferably within a Millenia or too
Here Kalanyr's face takes on a sad and pained look
"I have children but I doubt kidnapping them will do you any good, except to wound me in spirit, since they probably already want to eat my heart. Given that they are half-fiends and fiends in the service of Lolth my guess is you'd find them with the Armada of Darkness or in Ravenloft somewhere. "
"If you are interested I can safely state my father still lives, Acererak keeps him in a jar to my best knowledge.Unless he has freed him for some purpose of his own. I believe they called him Tarnhelm"
Concubines
"Those would be none. As a demon amongst ambitious drow I'm wasn't that stupid. As I am I have no desire to enslave people to serve my physical needs. That is exactly the type of thing I aim to get rid of. "
Athas:
I would have contacted the Avangions of Athas and share all I knew with them.
Hmmm, I would also send Emissaries to the Elemental Lords of Athas and the Para-Elemental Lord of Rain since he's the only Para-Elemental Lord I can think of that doesn't want to trash Athas even more.
I also wish to contact the Ffolk and the escaped slave villages of Athas.
One thing I teach them is how to create water,food and iron with magic.
ANSWER: I do not skip posts. I may miss them, but I do not deliberately skip them.
There is nothing you can do about Melkor and Iuz's concubines, obviously - short of kicking them out of the party for their behavior.
The God Emperor treats his concubines well, and they consider it an honor to pleasure him - that is their culture. But the situation with Iuz and Melkor is grim, as slave societies typically are.
You efforts to help the people of Athas are noted. They need that help. They are under heavy attack by Melkor.
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zouron
So who has 11th level amgic now? or more specific does the Eternal Union have 11th level magic (as a former Toril faction).
ANSWER: The Eternal Union has 11th level magic. So do all those Powers in the lists above on this thread.
and as far as I understand if the crystal spheres goes to ravenloft, then if they form a new pocket domains 11th level magic be retained, but if they join a pre existing domain it will vanish right? Just as technology must abid by the level of tech of the domain.
IF we head into Ravenloft, will each fation leader have their own domain or what? or do we have to fight until one of the evil dudes become single overlord and claims lordship (of the lowest degree of darklord) over the spheres?
Will you allow us to state multiple actions of red goo removal in one post if/when we go offline for several hours in a row, or do you want to post 3 or 4 times saying "I remove red goo from X"?
Finally a bit ravenloft input edena didn't mention.
Forgotten realms isn't a world called that it is acalled toril, in the same way ravenloft isn't called ravenloft.
The name Ravenloft referes to the castle of a Count Stradh Von Zarovich, whom is the first known darklord of the current "game" the Darklords or mist (in common tongue) plays.
The Demiplane that lays in the Deep Ethereal is commonly known as Domains of Dread and is greatly feared even by evil, it is to none gods what Carceri is to gods, and appearently the mist likes to torture and delude it's prisinors.
Yes you can get to Ravenloft with a teleport, you do't need that though, you just have to wish for it enough then the mist gladly brings you along, but don't count it set you off someplace safe. To the mist when you are not a Darklord it really doesn't care what you are, you are without great importance at best a pawn to annoy the darklords with (and yes the mist seems to like this more then extremely much).
There is much more or Ravenloft, but let us just say the place likes make you suffer.
ANSWER: Zouron is telling you the truth here. In fact, the reality of Ravenloft probably even darker than he is describing.
If Oerth becomes a part of Ravenloft, it becomes it's own Domain. So does Krynn. So does Toril. So does Athas. The Crystal Spheres around each become a part of each respective Domain. As for who is the Darklord ... I think a lot of evil Powers are trying for that spot right now, while the Spheres are still in the Prime Material Plane.
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The Forsaken One
Edena According to you I lost 8 PL in NPC's....? How when and or why? Since I never had any combat since turn 3 anymore except with my PC? Curious...
ANSWER: You are going to have 11th level magic, be able to summon 100,000 PL in help, and you are worried about 8 PL in NPCs?
And Edena, I controlled Valkys his forces for 2 turns... and we had him in my Hive Cluster for 2 turns... That would mean fairly good relations with eachother I'd say.... So at least for me it would be more logical to let me add them to myself or play them.....
ANSWER: You already have 11th level magic. Only those without 11th level magic may make claims to the 8 Powers.
Someone stated I would allocate the Powers - I am waiting for people to CLAIM them, before I arbitrate the claims.
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Kalanyr
Dear Dumb Dragon King Tyrants
Go and convince some Avangions and Rajaat, himself, to serve you, they are more likely to than I am.
Kalanyr
Strange looking elf with wings
ANSWER: Said dumb dragon king tyrants are busy allying with Tokiwong, who has just claimed the Eternal Empire.
Hmmm ... he will have the strength of the dragon-kings, all that remains of the Empire of Iuz, and the full might of the Eternal Empire, and he will have 11th level magic.
Maybe they aren't so dumb after all ...
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Tokiwong
Iuz looks to the members of the Veiled Alliance and then to the message sent from the Dragon Kings.... "These beings are truly foolish... why Borys of Eve was even protecting them is beyond me..." he turns to the assembled members of the Veiled Alliance, "There was a time..."
One of them a lithe human woman speaks up, "That you would have accepted..."
Iuz looked up, "But it is not to be... I will not betray a world that despises me.. for it is my world... and to do so will only warrant more war... for now... my allies... we shall leave this place... and enjoy the freedom to train the arcane arts in the open... you shall all be esteemed members of the Veiled Alliance no more... but the Council of Arcana... you will have the freedom to pursue the art you all have a passion and gift for..."
The woman nods, as Iuz continues, "The cycle of madness nearly overtook me a third time... come... we have much to do and learn..." Iuz leads the members of the Veiled Alliance to his secret Retreat...
The Veiled Alliance?
It was the Dragon-Kings that offered you alliance, Tokiwong, not the Veiled Alliance.
The Veiled Alliance accepts your offer, but they state they do NOT wish to become involved in the war on Oerth.
All they want is understanding and knowledge to protect Athas with, from the onslaught of the Shade and other dangers.
They will come, but they will not fight.
-Message to Hazen and all of Oerth-
The Dragon Kings come...
They demand total servitude... I blame myself for such a travesty... a thousand times over I have damned this world... and for now I shall see to it to minimize my contact... Self-Imposed exile... my lands when they are healed are at your disposal... do with them what you like...
-Iuz
Dragon Kings,
I came to your world with a force of men, if only to protect myself... but I am at fault for such conflict... but I WILL NOT betray my allies... nor my world ever again... the consequences... are too much... come join the Hell of your own making... Joine the conflict of my world... you cannot possibly damn it more then we have...
In short my answer is no... I will not be subservient... I will not cower... Athas will be a better place... the Return to the Age of Blue... will occur...
-Iuz
OOC: Nope not going to do it... Edena evacuating the Veiled Alliance to my secrect local... then well onward to Edena Knows where... to my Temple City... time for reflection... Iuz is not pleased with the turn of events... oh and hey don't worry Edena I know Ravenloft very well... can I recruit Azalin?
ANSWER: The Dragon-Kings are infuriated with your answer. And they state that if Iuz will not ally with them, they will find OTHER allies, much better allies ...
It is NOT possible to contact anyone in Ravenloft yet. Not unless you go there. IF you go there, now, you're out of the IR for the moment - because there is no returning from Ravenloft (of course, if the IR goes to Ravenloft, you're back in business.)
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Spoof
Not using the Angels from the 7th Heavens how much PL can I call using the Celestials from St. Cuthbert?
ANSWER: See the limits on what you can do with 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Also I thought you said that 10th level magic was a requirement for 11th level magic.
How are those people who did not have 10th level magic getting 11th now? If you want to give someone 11th level magic for outside reasons that is cool, but to allow anyone who did not research 10th go straight to 11th seems wrong. They had the option of spending PL earlier to get to 10th but chose not to, now with last turn they suddenly say hey I can get 11th now, why not? Allow them to have 10th this turn and 11th next, it would seem fairer to me anyway, but it is your call.
ANSWER: I thought of that. But I allowed the straight jump. A decision that was difficult, and a dilemma, but I made the choice.
As for Alzem’s Alignment change that was voluntary, his alignment is now the same as his god, Lawful Neutral. It was not the mists.
ANSWER: Oh, he is Lawful Neutral now? That makes a difference.
Instead of pure Celestials, a mixture of Celestials and Modrons will come.
Oh also needless to say I will expunge the red goo from Hope Isle Oreth and create an 11th level Mythal around the island, I will send you what it does later. I will also use 11th level magic to create Orethblood fountains across Hope Isle to keep it free from the Red goo and heal the land. Creating a large lake underground/surface of the stuff on the island. Also did I ever contact the Mercans. (sp) I will send you an e-mail of the different things I am trying to do with 11th level magic. I posted this as it is something that I would not be able or want to hide.
ANSWER: This is an Interlude. Wait until Turn 7 before posting that you are doing things - action posts shouldn't occur during an Interlude (which lasts only a short time IC.)
You can, at the very beginning of Turn 7, expunge the Red Goo, and create your 11th level Mythal, BUT ..
Remember that if you do this, you cannot create a Category 4 or greater Attack or Category 4 or greater Defense for your Power (which requires a full Day's concentration by your army of mages and clerics.) You are limited to launching Category 3 Attacks and Defenses or lower.
In other words, while you are busy building your Mythal, an enemy might just decide to snuff your Power out, mages, Mythal, and all, and they might very well succeed.
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LordMelkor{Talos}
I would greatly apreciate this, I need 11th level magic badly.
And how much territory do I control on Athas now? Note that I absorb entire population into Red Army.
ANSWER: You only have a beachhead on Athas right now. Almost none of it is under your control. The Dragon-Kings are NOT pushovers.
You have 11th level magic, as of right now. For you regain the Church of Shade in Realmspace, and it is now a Power per se, under your control, and it most certainly can use 11th level magic.
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Anabstercorian
Answer these in yes or no, so you won't have your head explode.
Can I seal away Luna forever?
NO.
Can I grant the souls trapped in Luna a merciful death?
NO.
Can I remove the need for Illithid to eat brains?
YES.
Can I, in an emergency, collapse the Crystal Sphere of Oerth in to oblivion to prevent the Red Goo from escaping?
NO.
Can I seal Athas from Oerth and Toril forever?
NO.
Can I accelerate construction of the Penumbral Hub?
Yes. But if you do, remember that that means you are using 11th level magic for something other than Attack or Defense.
That means you can only make Attacks or put up Defenses of Category 3 or less - Category 4 Attacks and Defenses require a full day's concentration by all your mages and clerics (5 requires a full week, 6 a full turn.) They can do nothing else while concentrating.
It's your choice. I am running Turn 7 by the day - you can state you are using your 11th level magic to do whatever you want, within the limits of my post on page one, or you can state your entire mage/cleric army is preparing Category 4 Attacks and Defenses.
The choice, is yours.
Can I create a flexible chain between Oerth and the Sun and put an elevator on it?
YES. But it will require a week's worth of 11th level magic to do it.
Can I seal Toril away from the bedlam that is sure to occur over the next month? It's the last intact place to conquer.
NO.
Can I alter Illithid larvae so that they can fly through the air at high speed and crunch in to peoples heads to transform them in to Illithid?
YES. That requires 11th level magic.
Can I find the exact location of the Staff of Ancient Penumbra?
YES. It will take the entire Turn to do it.
Can I kick everyone in Greyspace, Realmspace, and Krynnspace in the crotch simultaneously?
You can try.
Can I create a magical weapon that uses nuclear bombs as ammunition, that focuses their explosion in to a tight beam of energy, and transfers the recoil in to bedrock?
YES.
Can I Teleport vast quantities of Red Goo in to the Positive Energy Plane?
YES. The result will be a colossal explosion, and if you are present when it goes off, you will cease to exist (you will actually die.)
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Melkor
ANSWER TO QUESTION:
Yes, Melkor, you gain 11th level magic by default, the same way Zouron did.
And Edena, I also spread Shade Poisoning on Athas, in addition to Red Goo.
ANSWER: Noted. You are just beginning to do so.
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LordMelkor{Talos}
No, Iuz, not Blue Age, Red and Black shall be dominant colors.
Edena, can I contact Dark Powers? If so, than I have a following offer for them:
I will help to absorb all three spheres into Ravenloft, but in exchange I demand my Avatar to be Darklord of newly created Domain.
ANSWER: You cannot contact the Dark Powers. I KNOW what the Dark Powers are - I figured out their stats, race, gender, abilities, etc., etc., etc., a long time ago.
The reason you cannot contact the Dark Powers, is because you are looking in the wrong place FOR the Dark Powers.
Start telling me where you are looking, and you might actually find them.
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Anabstercorian
Holy shiz-nit!
Melkor, you is evil.
Can I teleport the entire Army of Darkness out of this Crystal Sphere?
ANSWER: You could do that with mere 10th level magic. HOWEVER ... the Curse of the 2 Touches stays with you. It doesn't matter if you go up to the Sixth Heaven for a vacation of a thousand years.
A thousand years later, you still manifest all the symptoms of Touch 1 and Touch 2.
And no, no deity can undo the effects of Touch 1 and Touch 2.
Only you can undo it, and that won't be easy.
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zouron
Melkor are you sure?
Serious are you sure you will attempt this? first off the dark powers (and be sure of this) may answer but they will certainly not grant your wish in any way you would like them to.
ANSWER: (chuckles VERY evilly ... go ahead, make a Wish, any Wish. The Dark Powers are always willing to grant a Wish ... always ...)
Even trying to contact might make you get forced to Ravenloft without getting your wish.
ANSWER: That is quite true, but I am trying not to be overly harsh, and so there is no immediate danger of that happening.
Being a darklord in Ravenloft isn't being ruler of a domain to ones pleasure, it is eternal torture just being able to see what one wants the most and then have it taken away. Your domain isn't your land to do with as you please it is the land which has no other purpose then to cause you grief in any way you would not like it.
well anyway good luck Melkor I just feel you will be cheated from the price you so much want.
ANSWER: Zouron is quite right. The Darklords are the most imprisoned of all ... and generally, they are the most unhappy of all, in the Demiplane of Dread that is known as Ravenloft.
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Kalanyr
Hmm, I think I agree with Anab.
Of course I have to add why on Oerth are you trying to hurry yourself into a Prison, Melkor? The Dark Powers tend to torment the willingly evil more than any other.
ANSWER: I never said Melkor would become a Darklord, if Oerth was sucked into Ravenloft. The Dark Powers choose who becomes a Darklord, and I play the Dark Powers.
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LordMelkor{Talos}
TO Black Omega:
-Melkor erupts in sinister laughter after hearing Siobhan`s words:
-You want to hear what I want?! Well among other things, I want YOU! I desire you, and you will be mine, in body and soul, your resistance will make things only more funny, but finally you will totally submit to my will, and you will learn to find pleasure in pain, and suffering of others. Oh, and this loser Kalanyr won`t help you, I would squash him like a bug if he only had guts to face me, his power is no match for mine.
ANSWER: Heh. Now, that's the Melkor we know and love!
Good rping, Melkor. - - -
LordMelkor{Talos}
Well Anab, Zauron, and Kalanyr, ONLY my Avatar will be a part of Ravenloft, not Melkor himself.
ANSWER: (the DM smiles very, very evilly) Wanna bet?
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Black Omega
No such thing as too much! And Siobhan did get involved with Kal when he was evil, so you never know.
ANSWER: (look of surprise.) Well, it's all up to Siobhan, of course ... I am sure Melkor could teach her the darkest depths of pleasure and pain ...
Well, someone had to be the first to answer and paint the bullseye on themselves.
Nice to see I got their attention.
ANSWER: Yes indeed. The Dragon-Kings of Athas have big plans for your Power, Black Omega.
Maybe not, but life gets dull if you only place it safe. It you are going to walk the edge, you may as well dance.
ANSWER: Cheers, Black Omega! Well put!
Hmm...Siobhan certainly wouldn't mind. there's no rush but if we wait on peace it might never happen. Might be time to at least do that ring shopping.
Questions for Edena on 11th level magic.
Can I change my iron golems to Oerthblood golems? Or at least admantium?
YES AND YES.
Can I 'treat' a area of lance to make it resistant to the red goo being returned?
YES. But just remember, if you use 11th level magic for any purpose but to Attack or Defend, you cannot launch a Category 4 or greater Attack or Defense, but must content yourself with a Category 3 Attack or Defense or less instead.
All fine and well, unless Mr. Draco and Serpenteye decide to both spend an entire day preparing an Attack, and hit you with a Category 8 Attack.
In which case, prepare to pay the piper.
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Kalanyr
Hey Melkor last time I checked none of the Races Kalanyr the PC have been, have a -12 Penalty to Intelligence,Wisdom and Charisma, which is what you'd need to singlehandedly try and fight someone 5 times as powerful as you. Without special circumstances.
ANSWER: Heh. That's nothing. Wait until Vaeregoth starts running around with 5,000 plus PL. I'd like to see the being who would dare take Vaeregoth on then ...
By the way, you can use 11th level magic to duplicate Vaeregoth's feat. It will take an entire day to do it, but it can be done with 11th level magic.
Of course, your Power can then only launch a Category 3 Attack and Category 3 Defense or less.
In other words, your PC might have no Power to supply him PL with ...
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Venus
Can I remove the Red Goo from Oerth completely?
ANSWER: YES. It will take the entire Turn, and this assumes nobody else interferes. Of course, you cannot launch any Category 4 or greater Attacks or Defenses while you are doing this.
Can I heal the wound in Oerth itself, removing the source of the red goo?
YES. It will take the whole Turn.
Can I get more Oerthblood?
YES. See my description on what you can do with 11th level magic. First post on this thread.
Can I stop the fog?
NO.
Can I revive angels that died in the battle between the Red Army, the Devils and the Angels?
NO.
Can I free Luna?
You can remove the Sunstare on it. That will take the entire Turn.
You might not want to do that - the population there was buried alive, and they cannot be reasoned with now - they will attack Oerth.
Can I restore any geological damage done to Oerth?
YES. See the limits on what you can do with 11th level magic. First post.
Can I make the sun shine bright again?
YES. It will take the entire Turn, and in addition there must be no interference from anyone else.
Can I create pocket dimensions?
YES. 100 of them, each sized LL.
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LordMelkor{Talos}
Well, I am Melkor The Great, if anyone can make a deal with Dark Powers and get away with this, it is me! Actually I find the power I gained from merging with Red Goo not enough, I hunger for more, my appetite is infinitive!
ANSWER: You have to FIND the Dark Powers before you can bargain with them, Melkor.
You have not located them yet.
Better keep looking.
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dagger
If you need anything from me Venus, dont hesitate to ask.
ANSWER: Dagger, I urge you to select one of the 8 open Powers on the lists above.
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Zelda Themelin
OOC:
LOL When I read this post, I laughted aloud for five minutes, well actually I still do. Please, continue being so delighfully evil. Melkor's personality remains me a lot of my late character's daddy dearest.
ANSWER: Heh. The evil you can come to love.
Zelda, I urge you to take one of the 8 Powers I have listed as open. I think you'd enjoy it - having 11th level magic to throw around at some of these guys.
Edena: How hard and slow it is make few small areas on Oerth livable for part of my people, with help of 9th level magic, druids, elementals and direct manpower. My template didn't use PL reserves for almost anything but defense last turn (6th), so I should have free hands at least.
ANSWER: With only 9th level magic and below, you can make the Kron Hills habitable, barely. You can begin restoring the damaged soil, begin growing hardy plants, and you can make the atmosphere breathable.
So, amost all my npc are dead. 3 PL left only, that leaves two alive. Another must be Kasha the Witch, and another is Ergoth-Nog prince of Storm riders of Telchuria, man who became closest friend to now dead Lord Baron Elvor of Ratik and leader for People of Timberway Forest.
Am I right here?
ANSWER: Yes. But remember that you can resurrect or wish your NPCs back.
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Forrester
This is all really quite silly. If 11th level magic could have these kinds of effects, on Toril we would have long ago deciphered the full contents of the City of the Gods by now (we all have an Int of 50, with our double-empowered Int-boosting spells up and our base 40 Int).
Hell, we'd have practically ascended into godhood. We've been living with 11th level magic for *years* on Toril, for pete's sake. If a single post re 11th level magic could have world-ending effects, or world-creating effects . . . I mean, c'mon.
This is all just too silly. After I get 11th level magic on Oerth, we retreat back to Toril, close off Realmspace to make sure nobody can invade (we HAVE been building protections/walls for freaking years now), and party.
Here endeth Forrester's participation in the IR.
If you want to cast Toril into flames, Edena, or blow it up by giving a random Oerthian an artifact that allows him to destroy worlds, or suck it into Ravenloft, be my guest. Knock yourself out.
ANSWER: It goes without saying that reading this post was painful. And I went offline for 12 hours afterwards, drained of any energy or will to continue the IR. However, I am back. I will not go away. As long as you will not, I will not.
I must arbitrate 11th level magic. Is it silly? Yes. It is ridiculous? Yes. Is it playing God? Yes. Am I to tell Mr. Draco and Serpenteye they can't have what they sacrificed and paid for, for 2 months IRL and 6 Turns of the IR to achieve? No.
And remember, the IR was always meant to be silly. It was never serious. Just exactly how long do you think the Chosen of Mystra and the Powers That Be on the real Toril would have tolerated the Gnomish Industrial Revolution? Heck, you can't fire an arquebus in the setting without the Watchful Order of Magisters hunting you down, and Khelben is backing them.
This is not about a chess tournament. This is about fun.
Besides, I do not believe there has ever been an 11th level intergalatic war game before. But there is always a first (even if it may well crash and burn.)
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Zelda Themelin
Need to resist... nooooh....
Some effects would IMO be possible. Though must remember these are still just questions. And, Oearth does have history of time, where magic did a lot of harm, but we should not forget balance of power either. If some side could easily do something, there would be other one to easily stop it, most of the time.
Mmh, maybe you became gods.
That would explain your problems to bring your all power and knowledge to Oearh to start with. Now wouldn't that be weird?
And you were revealing in the afterglow of all those good times that followed those terrible wars, that you didn't even notice.
Such a sense of responsiblity. Yep, I smell certain trait of divinity here.
I see no reason, why such tactic wouldn't work however.
*Sniff*. Goodbye then, come back when you feel like it.
ANSWER: Actually, 11th level magic could be used to make Oerth into a paradise. Literally. The volcanoes could be calmed, the geography could be restored, the flora and fauna returned, the atmosphere returned to normal.
Humankind could be rendered immune to disease and parasites, given a 40 in every stat, made immune to all normal injuries, made to feel constantly healthy and strong.
Depression and mental illness could be greatly reduced, people could achieve fulfillment, dreams could come true.
The Mists could be driven off, the effect of the Touches reversed, and real immortality of a much more healthy kind could be bestowed upon those who want it, and desire it (although death through battle will always be a possibility.)
All this is possible with 11th level magic.
However, for this to happen, the Powers of Oerth must work together to make it happen.
Why dont' you do something IC to stop him then, please?
Though since I really wonder should Toril be in any danger from being sucked into Ravenloft in the first place. Now, that would give a little too much credit to power of these so called dark lords. Now on Oerth, with psychos like Melkor helping, impossible might become improbable, and with some more help, even possible. Toril didn't get involted, except through our Lord of Chaos, Forrester, and they didn't want him to do that either, so it's truly unlikely Toril ends up into this mesh. Probably dark powers or whatsoever are just twisting divinations to make it seem so, or maybe it is our new god of dreams.
Let's hold our horses, story has yet to unfold.
ANSWER: Do not underestimate the power of the Dark Powers. They have inflicted the First Touch, Second Touch, and are closing in on the Third Touch, against you all. Six Touches, and off to Ravenloft everyone goes, and then there is no returning.
